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DiamWall CEO showed up in this thread :marseyxd: It's over for :marseykiwi: (again), DiamWall just dropped KF after less than a day :marseyitsover::marseyitsover::marseyitsover:

Statement here: https://www.diamwall.com/blog/service-continuation-of-kiwi-farms

EDIT: http://kiwifarms.st/ appears to be spotty, sometimes getting a "page could not be loaded" error on top of the 502s


Service Continuation Of Kiwi Farms...

My name is Hugo Carvalho and I'm the CEO of DiamWall, today I'm bringing an important statement that I never thought I would need to do anytime soon.

About our CDN...

Before even starting to talk about Kiwi Farms I think it is important to let people know what a CDN is and does.

We are only a proxy that filters website traffic and blocks malicious requests, we DO NOT host any website, we ARE NOT responsible for any website's content and we CANNOT control every service's content.

Everyone is free to register an account at our website, pay for the product and start using it. We DO NOT and CANNOT analyze every single website that starts using our services.

DiamWall is completely new in this market (we opened to the public one month ago) and this is not a good way to start for sure, nor is it the way that we wanted to start.

DiamWall was formed by a small group of people that worked for many years in this area with private customers and we created the best Anti-DDoS technologies that ever existed.

Now that you understand how it works, let's talk about Kiwi Farms...

The owner of Kiwi Farms came in need of DDoS Protection and because their website was offline due to DDoS, we didn't really know about their website's content. They had a PROBLEM and we had the SOLUTION.

Soon enough the reports started to arrive and we started digging more and more about this website, soon enough we found that Kiwi Farms hosts a lot of revolting content.

We do not think that is fair to terminate any service because of public pressure but in this case, we think there is some foundation behind all those requests and we really do not want to have anything to do with it.

So, after careful consideration, DiamWall does not feel like Kiwi Farms is a good fit for our company, which means that today we are SUSPENDING their service inside DiamWall's CDN.

Please be AWARE that this will not fix the issue, only delay it, they will find another provider that can protect them and will be online once again.

Best Regards,

Hugo Carvalho,

DiamWall CEO

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Yeah can't blame the CEO for cucking when a bunch of male witches scream at you

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Why don't these guys grow some balls? Wtf so now anytime an angry mob wants to take down a particular site they can?

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tbh this company is a month old, getting vilified by the largest army of trains online ever seen couldn't be good for them

aka capitalism wins again :marseycapitalistmanlet:

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Orrrr its better advertising than cloudflare

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It's a tarnished by association. If they kept kiwifarms, I'm sure the :!marseytrain:s would go after every company that they do business with. You would get a Parler/Gab/bitchute situation where the only people using it are hyper rightoids, and your potential market would be extremely reduced.

I think Cloudfare could easily withstand the :marseytrain: army, but not a small company with no public image. In a cold way, it's way better for business to drop kiwifarms.

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Yeah payment processors/credit card companies/banking buckle to twitter pressure pretty easily and Keffals and co would 100% target them. That sector refusing to service such a small company would probably outright kill it.

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THIS IS WHY WE NEED CRYPTO GOD DARNIT

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Exactly. I would add that even for Cloudflare Kiwifarms was bad for business (even though them being publicly traded is what probably made their decision), but they would be able to withstand some bad publicity and few nobodies dropping them if they really wanted. No big client is dropping probably the most reliable CDN they can get.

The sheer size and capital of Cloudflare cannot be matched by smaller alternatives, from both the technical aspect (before KF got dropped by the Russian CDN, their first post-Cloudflare, I believe the Ruskies weren't able to handle the DDOS) and just the ability to weather the bad publicity and potential client loss.

The only way forward I see for Kiwifarms is to try and find a company with ideally no social media presence that operates almost exclusively in non english country/countries. This way, the cowtools used so far - social media dogpiling and bad press - would have massively diminished influence. Indonesia/India/some African country, maybe one of the -stans, might be destinations to look at. Ideally a company from a populated country, as they're more likely to have good enough infrastructure to deal with all the traffic.

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I assure you KiwiFarms has or had 0 to do with their stock price though

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That's not really what I mean, it was just an important source of external pressure.

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Not really, I assure you pretty much no one would care

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Cloudflare shareholders wouldn't care about the dozens of articles accusing Cloudflare of hosting terrorists?

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Wakandaflare

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Maybe Nigeria

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Speaks English plus a fair bit of connection to the Western world both make them more susceptible to pressure IMO. But it was one of the countries on my mind.

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Maybe they'll keep KF just to make the westoid colonizers pissed.

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Dude this isn't even a lot of people. It's a handful of internet :marseytrain2:s throwing a tantrum.

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*transtrum

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:marseytrain2:s are saints you chud. Even when they do crimes you chud

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And don't forget that the ddos prevention services aren't hosting it, just holding off the constant ddos (a federal crime) by programmer socks. Who is really the "cyberterrorist" here?

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Lmao this is a fricking joke. At this point I hope the backlash against :marseytrain2:s is overwhelming.

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I really don't know what you're expecting if you think there's gonna be backlash against kiwifarms being dropped by... really anyone

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It's not just farms. It's internet :marseytrain2:s trying to rob everyone of free expression via mass bullying and unhinged lying.

Sucks for the sane :marseytrain2:s that just want to exist, but people are reaching a breaking point with :marseytrain2:s and their never ending quest for a post truth society.

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Yeah I mean I get it but like... no one is gonna have backlash against anyone taking action against KF and that's more KF's fault than anything. To really anyone, KF just seems like a bunch of weirdos who can't stop spamming slurs for 3 posts

I am somewhat surprised at this drama but I think KF kinda brought it upon themselves by blowing it out of proportion since a lot of overly online trans weirdos have been trying to get them shut down for ages.

Sucks for the sane :marseytrain2:s that just want to exist

Yeah I understand. Not really much we can do though I guess since they are so loud and obnoxious and toxic.

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>Sucks for the sane :marseytrain:s that just want to exist, but people are reaching a breaking point with :marseytrain:s and their never ending quest for a post truth society.

wrong. there is no breaking point and our :marseykeffalsdance: trans queens :marseykeffalsdance: will grow more in power with more time. people reached the breaking point with chuds, not the other way around :chudsey: :marseylaugh:

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First they came for 8chan, and I did not speak out because I am not a federal agent.

Then they came for kiwifarms, and I did not speak out because I am not a terminal seriousposter

Then they didn’t come for rdrama so all’s well that ends well :marseyshrug:

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>then they didn’t come for rdrama

![](https://media.giphy.com/media/8v6Z3YyULB5Q0Skbac/giphy.webp)

You know :marseyhesright: there’s a reason we aren’t on Reddit :marseybestfriends: anymore right?

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They came for /r/drama, not rdrama.net. Big difference considering that Reddit is a closed platform.

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The only reason ironically we didn’t get immediately tossed to the wind :marseyautumn2: was because admins :marseybongojanny: read :marseyfedpost: /r/drama. You really think some no life lolcow we piss :marseycalvin: of down the line :marseycop: won’t try the same stunt they did with kiwi :marseykiwivampire: farms?

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Do you think :!marseytrain:s are going to stop at one website? This isn't about Kiwifarms, it's about silencing anyone that speaks out against libertarian :marseytrain2:s.

And people are already noticing in the mainstream.

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Except that... yeah it's kinda is about KiwiFarms. They've been doing it for years and they've been clashing for years with subjects, many of which who are trans or were pretending to be, and they never got kicked off of their CDN

We wouldn't be talking about it if it wasn't KF and if Null and the forums didn't collectively go all :marseyattentionseeker:, they'd still be on CloudFlare

And people are already noticing in the mainstream.

Yeah and the mainstream opinion is "KiwiFarms shouldn't exist"

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and they never got kicked off of their CDN

Yes they have. They've had a bunch of services drop them over the years. Even the fricking forum software creator dropped them and Josh is having to make his own forum software from scratch. And they've been dropped by every mainstream payment processor and even some crypto exchanges have barred payments to their addresses and ban people for trying to send them money.

>Yeah and the mainstream opinion is "KiwiFarms shouldn't exist"

It's such a mainstream opinion that you need to ban everyone that tries to give the other side of the story from the internet entirely. Nothing says popularity like forced adherence.

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ure in a crazy bubble if you think anyone in the 'mainstream' gives a shit about KF

this isnt about freeeeeee speeeeeech. null and all KF posters are free to go to the printing press and print as many flyers about lolcows as they want, handing them out on the street as they see fit. speech is still free

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it won't be, at least for the foreseeable future. an event like this was inevitable but now that it's happened the day people stop caving to shit like this inches closer. it's easy to think these :marseytrain2: brigades are gonna rule the internet forever but nothing is constant, if you told rightoids 6 years ago that they'd be on the same side as radfems in 2022 they would not believe you one bit.

but for now this is the world we're in :marseydepressed:

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So basically Null didnt even warn them about what they were getting into? Not even a little chat? I guess he's farming for sympathy too now

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He stated on the telegram that he's just gonna trial-and-error as many providers as possible

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Yeah of course. But why not at least make sure they know what you are before you waste time on IT? If you explain yourself and get rejected righr away you dont have to go through this whole migration process one by one

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even better. add fake service providers animation on the page and send the :!marseytrain:s on wild goose chases

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When I saw that this one had a twitter page made last month and only 40 followers I thought that's what this was

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it is the game of stamina at this point and :!marseytrain:s are enthusiastic with their continuous wins. im seeing null burning out

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true, but being turned down prematurely by a provider that might actually hold up doesn't seem like a chance he wants to take even if it's a slim chance

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I guess he's in no rush for it to get stable it seems.

The funnier thing is the company not doing even a cursory google search first.

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I do feel kinda bad for them, poor guy was probably in for a surprise when he woke up from his siesta :marseyflagportugal:

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Depending on their size I doubt they'll google every single applicant

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This is the size of their site

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Fair

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:#autism:

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better to use the service and show their hand instead of letting them weasel out with a "we weren't sure we would have been a good fit for x,y,z technical reason"

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They're a literally who company with no significant clients and no marketing. This is the best possible outcome because its free publicity

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for the drama

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Trying to explain this shitshow of a situation to the support staff of a service you aren't even using yet is probably going to waste more time than just trialing them and getting dropped.

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I mean I got that from Null's weird rant about how KF is some bastion of free speech or some shit like he's leading some revolution

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We do not think that is fair to terminate any service because of public pressure but in this case, we think there is some foundation behind all those requests and we really do not want to have anything to do with it.

"We don't think it's fair to terminate any service because of public pressure, except when we do."

Got it.


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the exact same reasoning CF had, it's gonna be a theme

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The second these people grow balls and tell :marseytrain2:s to frick off we can all go back to normal.

Corpos letting a handful of sub 80 IQ libertarian :marseytrain2:s hold them hostage is insane.

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Trains will never die because they make way too much money. Consequences of a capitalistic economy

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What a fricking rollercoaster this is

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I just can't stop watching, I thought the initial CF statement was the end of it. It's so depressing to see how much the kween of trains has won :marseydepressed:

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Normies don't care about :marseyfreezepeach:


:!marseybooba:

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is the open source domain still up?

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CANCEL. CULTURE. DOES. NOT. EXIST.

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it's holding people accountable sweetie :marseynails:

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>We do not think that is fair to terminate any service because of public pressure but in this case, we think there is some foundation behind all those requests and we really do not want to have anything to do with it.

We don't think it's fair but we'll do it anyway if enough pedo:!marseytrain:s whine at us.

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Why not just start their own internet service?

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if I had a gagillion dollars I'd just paypig null so he could just construct his own mitigation service and hosting. what are the trains gonna do? firebomb it?

probably actually

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We need a decentralized ddos protection method for situations like this.

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:#marseyrave: :#marseyrave: :#marseyrave:


:!marseybooba:

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.su is a real TLD made before the fall of the soviet union, unfortunately it's almost exclusively used by scams and spammers

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I heard DiamWall is 90% pedophilia websites.

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