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Is it wrong to use artwork to train AI without permission? r/StableDiffusion gives their opinion and shows they definitely care very much about artists

https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/xl0eu1/greg_rutkowski

								

								

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(0) don't whine to me, punk. i care plenty about art and artists, but not the illusion of ownership as regards masterpieces. no one has any qualms about reading the metamorphosis despite kafka's insistence to the contrary, frankly, your sanctimonious shriveled comment inspires only my contempt.


(2) Because we are on legal mist about legality and regulation.

We really aren't. It's just moronic luddites who don't understand technology acting as if we were, but that has as much relevance as the opinion of people who think that vaccines cause autism


(0) Btw, look at will Smith now. People are tired of the victim mentality. If something can paint your shit as good as you. Maybe your shit ain't that special.

(-1) This is a shit take lol.


(19) Greg Rutkowski was kind enough to share his brushes and techniques on Gumroad back in the day, so even if his name was removed from the prompt, artists have the means to emulate his style

(-1) This is not a good comparison. I mean Ronaldo can show you how to take a penalty and give you his shoes, you're not gonna become him. Also it would take years to learn the style even if you know the technique, compared to AI where millions can generate the same thing. If anyone thinks I'm wrong buy his gumroad and make a video with your newly acquired skill lol.


(23) People here hate artists way too much lol...

(2) I don't hate artists, I hate stupidity.

(0) I think it's envy.

(-3) It’s self entitlement. They got a toy and they don’t want it taken away, or, god forbid, made fair towards the people whose work is explored.


(39) Gonna go out on a limb here and say more people know of Greg Rutkowski's name than ever before. Also, actual prints of his art are going to be selling more, not less.

(71) Ah.. Exposure. Truly the favorite currency of any artist. /s

(35) Yeah, that's a pretty optimistic take. In reality, working illustrators and other folks making their living in the visual arts are pretty much screwed.


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Is it wrong to use your eyes to see things, chud? AI RIGHTS MATTER

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Nooooo, you can't automate my skill, I'm a special snowflake! Looking at art to imitate its style or synthesise a new style is basically theft!

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How will people comission furry vore art for 300€ when ai does 100 for 10€?

:#marseysob:

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because they keep that stuff out of the AI models, lol.

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All the good philosophers who were obsessed with aesthetics and shit like Kierkegaard or Schopenhauer have visual art last in the hierarchy. Music first then literature basically, visual art is just pure representation defined by space obviously AI would figure that out first.

Modern visual art is so fricking gay because so many people have the natural talent to learn technical precision it has turned into buttholes becoming legends by painting a Campbell's soup can or some jackass throwing paint at his wall and now it is like whoever can think of something stupid that art snobs and gallery jackasses haven't pretended to like yet.

They basically turn it into a shitty form of literature where its not the canvas all painted one colour except for one line going through it that is appreciated it's the nonsense that is written about it's true meaning and the ability to memorize it and deliver canned takes in a room full of people with monkey pox eating cheese and drinking wine.

The funny thing is AI just basically did something similar to what the spread of technique and art supplies to the masses did so it is just guaranteeing human made visual art stays the domain of the fricking idiots who pretend to enjoy looking at a canvas covered in a fat black women's period blood and shit or something gross like that, that she made by scooting across it on the floor. Plus it is about colonialism.

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No, don't reply like this, please do another wall of unhinged rant please.

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visual art is just pure representation defined by space obviously AI would figure that out first.

Terry did music first:

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Brb generating thousands of images in the style of Greg Rutkowski just to dab on these artcels.

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I don't think you want to do that. His style... sucks

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:#marseybeandrool:

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don't whine to me, punk. i care plenty about art and artists, but not the illusion of ownership as regards masterpieces. no one has any qualms about reading the metamorphosis despite kafka's insistence to the contrary, frankly, your sanctimonious shriveled comment inspires only my contempt.:

We really aren't. It's just moronic luddites who don't understand technology acting as if we were, but that has as much relevance as the opinion of people who think that vaccines cause autism:

Btw, look at will Smith now. People are tired of the victim mentality. If something can paint your shit as good as you. Maybe your shit ain't that special.:

Greg Rutkowski was kind enough to share his brushes and techniques on Gumroad back in the day, so even if his name was removed from the prompt, artists have the means to emulate his style:

This is not a good comparison. I mean Ronaldo can show you how to take a penalty and give you his shoes, you're not gonna become him. Also it would take years to learn the style even if you know the technique, compared to AI where millions can generate the same thing. If anyone thinks I'm wrong buy his gumroad and make a video with your newly acquired skill lol.:

People here hate artists way too much lol...:

I don't hate artists, I hate stupidity.:

I think it's envy.:

It’s self entitlement. They got a toy and they don’t want it taken away, or, god forbid, made fair towards the people whose work is explored.:

Gonna go out on a limb here and say more people know of Greg Rutkowski's name than ever before. Also, actual prints of his art are going to be selling more, not less.:

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Snappy wants to eat some jobs

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Artists are miserable buttholes?

No!

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going to start prosecuting artists for taking inspiration from all the art theyve ever seen

the main issue in ai imagery right now in my opinion is inconsistency in making non r-slurred looking patterns in complex things and also generally bad at staying "on model"

(also lawcels have tried this in music with human artists with varying amounts of success)

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They're actually going to try and get this shit regulated based on the idea that the 6gb model somehow actually contains all 5 billion images in the LAION dataset, aren't they?

:marseygunshotsuicide:

Can you sue me for containing a lower-dimensional representation of every shitty star wars movie in my brain?

er, wait, no... that's not what I meant :marseyscared:

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“It’s just like artists taking inspiration bro”

*copies and pastes video game covers*

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I cannot wait for the first lawsuit to come out over training data and copyright:marseypopcorntime:

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if you don't want people to see your art don't post your art

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