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It's hard to overstate how full of shit Edward Snowden is, but that's a conversation for another time.

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This. Government employees always have our best interests in mind. Snedward Owden is a liar and thief.

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Snowden's claim's don't even make sense, beyond how ridiculous they are. The sheer amount of data throughput and compute power that it would take, to do what? Spy on all Americans? To what end? Who's manning these watch floors that are spying on 400 million Americans while we struggle to even stay on top of our adversaries? What would they even do with that info? If the government had some all-seeing program like Snowden imagines wouldn't p-dophiles and traffickers have a much harder time?

His shit doesn't make sense as anything but scifi, and if you actually read the raw material he put out you have to be pretty imaginative to draw the specific conclusions from it he drew.

What's more likely is what is evident in his book and on his Rogan interview, and the House Select Committee report on him - Snowden is a serial exaggerator and fabulist, with a great sense of self importance. Has been for a long time.

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Totally correct if information could never be used to exploit or blackmail others and if government officials are altruistic welfare-maximizing angels that put citizens over themselves, friends, coworkers, and of course politicians. You truly are r-slurred.

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What's more likely is what is evident in his book and on his Rogan interview, and the House Select Committee report on him - Snowden is a serial exaggerator and fabulist

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You're right... Snowden was totes 'almost' Special Forces when he failed to complete Army basic training, then went from helpdesk zero to deputy technologist in the CIA with no degree.

He said so, so it must be.

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It's more about having an unaccountable federal agency that's impervious to public inquiry because it created its own legal system that protects its treasure trove of exploitable information on US citizens. If you can't get over how much of a shithead Snowden is and can't fit the puzzle pieces together because of some backwards vision of unicorn government, then you are truly hopeless.

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Oh no, I don't think it's incorrect that the federal government is rife with people with the capacity and willingness to do such things. It just doesn't work how Snowden says it does.

He grifts attention off of a lie. But someone in the government did eavesdrop on Michael Flynn's phone call with the Russian ambassador. And the Obama administration did unmask him.

It's like how Bob Lazar claims to have insider knowledge of UFOs and aliens. If a UFO landed tomorrow, Bob Lazar would still be a liar.

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You don't need Snowden's talk time on Joe Rogan to understand that government officials aren't altruistic welfare-maximizing agents. You still ignore the bigger picture because it's clouded by some weird mental block (your assumptions about how you believe people in power behave, presumably). If you want something interesting and credible to read about the US intelligence community, check out James Bamford's stuff.

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Hard agree.

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It's not like Big Brother is literally spying on you through the wall. What Snowden is saying is that day-to-day work at the CIA is like a drama thread, but they have the doxx on any interesting character they come across.

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Snowden was saying that the NSA literally mass-scrapes all data on every platform you can name, and that those companies are complicit.

To prove that assertion he posted a slide from a presentation on PRISM, just showing a workflow that goes from NSA to, say, Google. What that slide appears to actually show is the process of FISA warrant fulfillment.

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cuck

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You're a cuck if you don't simp for a traitor.

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I don't particularly praise Snowden, but I loved the leaks! :marseybeandrool:

Gunt just reminds me of an r-slured votehog. :marseyinabox:

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