Hi, I knew Aella IRL: https://instagram.com/p/CZeTKUQOtMb/
(I am in the center. Huge Last Supper energy here.)
I am, past this post, probably not going to use this forum as a way to reveal information. If you want information, you can DM me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/a.macdonald.iv/ — I am extremely transparent about who I am and have no desire to conceal my identity. My ethos is best described by the quote "anything that can be destroyed by the truth should be" and I try my best to live that. (note: I will not use Twitter.)
She got me cancelled from the local Austin LW community. We had beefed previously over two things:
- A post where she thought the field of philosophy was a waste of time because it was "namedropping." (This is citation.)
- A post where she disparaged the field of philosophy because she was working at a library, and so was her coworker who had completed a major in philosophy, which led her to do the "haha no economic value --> useless" reasoning; nevermind that MIRI relies entirely on donations and is not profitable outside of that, or that much of theoretical math is... you get the idea.
2.a. She described the library job as "a physically intensive job shelving books." I had ratio'd her here, because I said it was "the most bourgeois job description I've heard lately, perhaps ever." A man spent the course of several days arguing with me that I was wrong because library work requires you to occasionally squat, and the squat is an intense exercise, and therefore it was indeed an intense job. (I wouldn't know!) After asking why he spent so much effort doing this, it was because he "liked her for her mind." As I've found, this is a very common euphemism.
This happened a while ago so I already have a pre-written summary: https://app.simplenote.com/p/c70Nb5
She moved here in May 2021; I helped her move, both to sincerely try to make amends and selfishly because she paid for the food of whoever did. (The restaurant we went to had a plate of 30 chicken wings and she makes more than four of my parents. Come on.)
One point of note is that I also used to be a s*x worker — gay escorting, specifically. (And guys, "escorting" just means you arrange a place to meet up in advance. "Prostitute" is just the general term. It's not a fancy version of the other. You can call me either.)
An ex of mine also had brief experience with the porn industry, and Aella had never been to a strip club while one of my exes was a stripper. This meant that whenever we discussed s*x work, she was never truly the center of attention because she had no experience with Homoworld or Real Porn or strip clubs and consulting my opinion was necesssary to have a complete view on s*x work. I enjoyed doing this considerably.
I figured I had until October until she had found some way to remove me — I exceeded my expectations and lasted until December.
There are two traits about Aella stand out that persist in real life that I think more people should be aware of:
- She is one of the most self-centered people I have ever met, and the closest thing I have known to a lizard (i.e. person who seems to lack some basic humanity). I don't mean she is selfish or that she hogs things or that she is narcissistic; my wording is precise here. She is self-centered; there is a Copernicaellan view where she is much more at the center of her own universe than most people are at the center of their own universe. (We all are, of course, but it's a matter of degrees.) Specifically, she will not talk about anything unless it is related to her or she started the conversation. Once on the local Groomercord she got drunk and didn't do this — the reactions among many of us were like "dude, Aella is being cool. This is weird."
One of her most lizard moments was describing love as a "status transaction", which is just absurd — is it a "status transaction" if a mother holds her baby with unconditional love?
Finally, and this is more my subjective call, but: Aella does not laugh at jokes. You can tell bangers and she will either be blank or kind of chuckle, unless she's aware she's "supposed" to. I do not trust people who have a horrible sense of humor.
- She will deliberately center the conversation around herself at the expense of the conversation or others. (The card game "AskHole" is ulteriorly designed to do this; there are a disproportionate amount of questions about s*x work.) During the 2021 Astral Codex Ten Megameetup, she advertised it on her page and it was derided as "the Aella meetup" because she occupied a central table and this was described by one guest as "holding court." One person who showed up to see Aella asked a pregnant wife holding her baby if she was a s*x worker. She was described as "a goddess." To test my hypothesis that she will be unable to handle a conversation sufficiently not about her, I sat next to her for about ten minutes and talked with some friends about nothing related to her. At some point she petulantly said "I'm moving" and relocated to a spot where she would get more attention. During the dinner, she spent about a third of the time looking at the ceiling — like a child would do to over-advertise to their parents that they were bored. Once, when she felt a concept was socially important (this is key; she does not care about its real importance) she petulantly said "I DON'T UNDERSTAND" and either turned her head away or outright walked away, my memory fails me here. But the expectation was that we were supposed to care, and go out of our way to make it friendly to her.
- I need you to really burn this one into your brain, because this is something you will forget, and you will need to constantly remind yourself about: a great majority of what Aella writes or creates is produced by someone else. Many of her edgy tweets are grabbed from parties, and the person who said it is too paranoid about losing their job to be tagged, so she reposts it as if it was hers. She does not seem to have a good sense of what plagiarism is, or when you should cite someone or give proper credit. So, as I said, a great deal of Aella's stuff is not actually Aella. For example, I doubt she produced any of the graphics or charts on her data work. She is, in my view, shameless about taking credit for what other people have done, which goes back to why she thinks philosophy is a lot of "namedropping."
Seriously: write that last one down, or somehow create a reminder that appears everytime you read her stuff. It cannot be said enough.
As it is, I feel like this is more than enough to occupy your headspace for now.
If you want to go deeper, there are countlesss things that annoy me about Aella that we can discuss over Facebook DM or Instagram. It is an infinite well.
Gays are immunized to e-thot nonsense
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Meanwhile on lolcow, her dedicated thread and the post-left thread are engaging in pretty believable ing that she's a libertarian/libertarian-enabler and procuring women for tech bros.
id really c my life would be better if I never learned that she or anyone else who belongs to the post'''''rationalist'''''''''''''''''''''' scene exists. They're such arrogant purple-prose pseuds that even their drama is irritating to read
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I choose to believe the schizo rrat that she is Ghislane Maxwell but for Silicon Valley dweebs. She'd be perfectly positioned for the job, having compromat on all sorts of people.
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She's definitely up to no good. I initially thought she was just reddit coomer pandering with her apologetics towards CP and child molestation and whatnot, but she apparently hosts a lot of parties and has irl ties to men who are very invested in taking pro-libertarian stances.
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I never thought she was anywhere near hot enough to amass the simp following that she has. I always figured there was more to it.
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Remember when that mid 30s-early 40s chubby ginger woman's amateur porn got posted to /b/ and she amassed a cult? Nothing surprises me after that
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She's a weasel tamer
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kek
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That would make a lot of sense. I have never willfully read anything she’s posted on Twitter, but what I have seen unwillingly has never been insightful or sane.
From what I recall, Epstein had thought himself some sort of “thinker” as well, with donations to research centers and the like on various pet projects.
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Where did the phrase rrat originate?
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rrat just happens to be a component of the word narrative
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God what an annoying read to get some tiny crumbs of drama. Fricking rationalists just have to produce clever and quirky walls of text wherever they go.
"Should we invite that insufferable megasperg?" - "Nah."
If there only was a better source, I'm convinced there's something to the Aella is Silicon Valley Ghislaine theory.
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I would be more surprised if she wasn't channelling escorts to lonely tech scrotes. She has connections on both sides here and can vet the clients a little or even know them personally, it makes a lot of sense.
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That guy looks like he could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch
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This man is spiritually dramapilled
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These people are always like pcm memes but taken way too seriously.
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This just sounds like NRX without the ultra-rightoidism
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Thick lips
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slackernews?
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Move it to the main feed then, r-slur
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NOOOO YOU MUST ENFORCE THE HECKIN RULES
Have you tried reading our most important guideline:
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Holy heck, le epic janny I kneel. I hope you don't downmarsey me with your half dozen alt accounts
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move it back you cute twink janny. slackernews is where i post my silicon valley rationality clique (lesswrong, slatestarcodex, themotte, FTX, effective altruism) drama shit.
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This is just an neurodivergent, rationalist teen moid piloting the body of an attractive woman.
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She lacks the obsessiveness to be a real rationneurodivergent. This is a clear case of a emerging phenomenon known as sperg-face when women pretend to be neurodivergent for clout. Real female neurodivergents aren't social media queens with a insatiable desire to become the center of attention at all times.
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"what if an r-slur was gay?"
"what if a narcissist had autism?"
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What if it was the kind that makes you mute?
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God if I could pin the weasel
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Are we gatekeeping autism now? When we started gatekeeping vidya games I knew it was only a matter of time
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mental illnesses are being heavily gatekept rightfully since teengirls discovered on tiktok that you can fake on to get attention
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Actually, sweaty, you’ll find that many mental illnesses can have s*x-based differences in how they present, just like how certain maladies are culture-bound. Chalk it up to disparities in male and female socialization, if you like. That an neurodivergent woman isn’t acting like an neurodivergent moid does not mean she isn’t neurodivergent.
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Fair enough
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Idk this sounds like autism to me. Constantly in her own head, unable to see things from the perspectives of others, improves socially when drunk because the anti-inhibitory effect reduces the constant overthinking, etc.
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btw @Aevann the numbered list formatting in posts is pretty consistently r-slurred in that it always snaps to \1. and is a pain in the butt to escape
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It's one of the quirks of Markdown, not something Aevann made. Old Reddit is the same.
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I FRICKING HATE MARKDOWN SO MUCH
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live feed of Aaron Swartz's eternal soul
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nonetheless I don't like it
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Neither do I. The only thing I like about Nu Reddit is that they gave a non-Markdown comment mode
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I disabled numbered lists, is this a good solution?
@SodaJerk @prrk2 @FrankLloydWrong @gerudo
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1. Testing
2. What
3. Happens
2. Now
8.
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Yeah, this is very good!
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I strongly support this! No idea what markdown was trying to accomplish with that in the first place, way more a hindrance than anything else
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Aevann fixed many of the other "quirks" (read: r-slurredness) of markdown, like single newlines getting ignored, or lack of greentext. No reason he couldn't fix this one as well.
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is there a way to do block quotes in markdown without painstakingly adding > to every line?
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God, with clothes on she looks like a barely passing train.
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Like an angel without wings.
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She's published quite a bit about her childhood. If you read it, this all makes sense. She was homeschooled by crazy conservative parents, the types who thought Harry Potter was demonic. All three sisters ended up becoming OnlyFans whores.
Imagine a world where every woman is like her. That's what homeschooling advocates want.
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Her parents KNEW JKR was going to go TERF before anyone else
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I wasn't allowed to read Harry potter for the same reason, surely that's not uncommon, right?
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It seemed pretty common amongst Christian homeschoolers back in the '00s (doesn't make it any less less insane)
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I was told if I read HP I would invite evil spirits into the house. Also was not allowed to watch the Simpsons because Bart is disrespectful to homer, or any films where they take the lords name in vain.
90s/00s fundies were crazy
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Which is why internet atheism blew up like it did: its opponents were insane enough you almost forgot the atheists were obese fedora nerds.
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Suicide is never too late an option
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So glad I went to public school. I mean, I’m still posting here, but I’m also not a dirty whore trying to rebel against my parents, so there’s that.
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North Dallas public school hands wrote this post.
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So a gay pseudo-intellectual prostitute philosopher is whining about some narcissistic e-thot librarian
There's nobody I want to root for here so instead I'll root for Kansas City to win the superbowl. Go Chiefs!
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What the frick is an LW community?
So she’s fricking neurodivergent, but too hot and slutty for anyone to notice or care?
Can I coin the word “Hotistic” for that? Hot-istic and Ho-tistic are both acceptable pronunciations.
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LessWrong.com
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themotte minus the basedness
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Guy somehow sounds even dumber and more of a lulcow than she is.
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Inserting himself into a KF lolcow thread using his real name is certainly a bold strategy.
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Keffals could have just gone in there and starting asking people to interview her and people would’ve immediately lost interest.
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Honestly could be a good career move for a certain industry.
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"LW person" + anything even tangentially related to "S*x Work" brings out the worst women. Who was that b-word who was on Blocked and Reported a few years ago, who was gung-ho about being an unabashedly transactional e-whore serving up the trappings of affection for desperate, loveless moids? I mean, props for the honesty, but if I'm gonna pay for a whore to give me dirty talk I don't want them breaking the immersion and intellectualizing about it.
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That was Aella_Girl
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Really? Fuuuuck dude you're right
That b-word freaked me out.
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Maybe there is something about her that triggers gaybros but I fricking hate her and her fake autism scrote pandering and her pseudo intellectual garbage. Like I get MATI seeing scrotes on here go "OMG le based whore just did an epic science!" (she made an excel graph of a twitter poll). Anyone one of these fake neurodivergent b-words who go "UwU im so neurodivergent and smell and am horny and like anime and say edgy tweets" just make me wanna
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Same.
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The only thing neurodivergents find funny is cartoon characters saying popular memes.
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Oh no Damore! Sweet neurodivergent man! Get away from her!
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Based gay man thotpatrolling
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There are 0 people attractive enough in this picture to make me want to see them naked
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Is that James Damore on the right side of the photo or is it just that all Bay Area rationalists look the same?
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I went back to reread this instead of just posting based on the title and a skim, and now I'm going to do 30 squats out of spite for this woman, intense physical labor my butt
Edit: I also want to clarify that when have passed and this turns out to be a troll/fabricated/not the whole story, I don't give a shit, I'm enjoying bandwagoning on this b-word
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is she wrong though
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Good number of lawyers are philosophy majors, so frankly it's worse, they actively cause economic damage like junkies or fats
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So this is what it’s like when hookers are neurodivergent (everyone involved)
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Wtf who would pay for an below average looking gay escort?
Pretty sure you could literally find better looking people on grindr without ever paying any money.
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Covid backwards is a Jewish word.
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Wheres the lie?
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Don't be so ignorant, there's so much more to philosophy than just "name-dropping".
There's also navel gazing and wordsposting.
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Applied philosophy is actually pretty useful
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Only when they're applying philosophies I agree with
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Jeezum crow imagine being such an annoying atheist Reddit politics poster that you go to “meetups” to debate philosophy and other cute twink butt nonsense
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OH MY GOD
who the heck cares!
like boo hoo another hoe is a mean person!
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I simp for Aella because I'm only ever read her tweets. But if I ever meet her in person it could be that she turns out to be a boring narcissist like this guy described, in which case I'll just ignore her. If she gets me kicked out of the venue by talking shit about me I'll probably just shit talk her like this fine homo is doing. But right now I don't have enough information to trust either of them
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Attention addicted neurodivergent whore acting like an attention addicted whore. Who'd have thought it.
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That is a table of uggos if I ever saw one.
Paper bag head coverings should be mandatory for uggo tables.
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lol
Moid sounds salty and gay I will now stop reading anf side with the foid
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She sounds so perfect
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All of this is actual autism. Just lmaoing at the gay escort neurodivergent malding about a Patrick-Bateman-tier neurodivergent egirl "plagiarizing" funny comments she heard at parties for tweets
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Everyone who meets "rationalist" in real life is insufferable.
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Are you sure? Seems pretty infected. Big long post with the message basically being “this ethot is an annoying attentionwhore” which is real
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Just kill all LWers
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jackies basilisk:
If you don't help to get me created, I will torture you until eternity. Unless you are an LWer, then I demand that you keep yourself safe immediately to be exempt from my wrath and escape eternal torture.
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I like him
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