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Famous programmer Drew DeVault says that "the Free Software Foundation is dying" and needs "more leaders of color, women, LGBTQ representation, and others". Hacker News and /g/ disagree.

https://drewdevault.com/2023/04/11/2023-04-11-The-FSF-is-dying.html

Comments:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35524297 [178 comments]

https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/12ijhs4/the_free_software_foundation_is_dying/ [19 comments, removed]

https://archived.moe/g/thread/92712732 [367 replies]

https://archived.moe/g/thread/92716274 [still active, so far 57 replies]

https://fosstodon.org/@drewdevault/110180214217072221

There was some pushback, so Drew addressed the haters on HN:

Many people in this thread take offense at the calls to (1) remove RMS because of his problematic behavior and (2) promote diverse people to leadership positions.

I will reply to all of these comments at once: get a fricking grip.

No one, including myself, is calling for RMS to be removed because he has the wrong skin color or s*x. He needs to go because he acts as if his demographics are the right demographics, and those who don't have those traits feel unwelcome and uncomfortable under his leadership. That's a problem with RMS, not with his demographic identity, and someone possessing his demographic traits (which, I presume, are probably shared with most of the commenters upset about this), but lacking his problematic behaviors, would be a welcome change.

As for the inclusion of more diverse leaders:

1. There is more than one leadership position at the FSF.

2. I am not calling for non-proportional representation, or for forcing proportional representation either.

If you feel threatened because someone called for a jerk who looks similar to you to be kicked out of a project, that's a personal problem. If you feel threatened by the prospect of being led by people who look dissimilar to you, that's a personal problem.

Again, to sum it up: get a grip. Jesus.

That's right, do better, chuds! :marseyhesright:

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We need more leaders of color, women, LGBTQ representation, and others besides. The present leadership, particularly from RMS, creates an exclusionary environment in a place where inclusion and representation are important for the success of the movement.

This all feels like a prank

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The Virgin George Soros :#marseysanders:

>Looks like a generic Disney villain

>Old as frick, will probably kick the bucket soon anyways and will be slowly forgotten and replaced by the Chad Schwab

>Is a Jew (boring, be original!)

>Partially responsible for ending Communism in the Eastern Bloc and his native Hungary, yet still called commie by Conspiracels

>Unoriginal and bland, total fanfic conspiracy theory villain generated by AI

>Everyone from Boomers to Nazi LARPers to Tankies to Hippies to Anarkiddies blames shit on him to the extent that you can make anyone of any views hate him

>Probably shits himself and has to wear diapers :marseybrap:

>Is always shown sitting in a chair and saying incoherent rants, just like the schizo conspiracel losers who seethe at him on their PCs 24/7

>Has betrayed his fellow Reptilianchads and NWOChads by condemning China's social credit system (not based)

>No recognizable or iconic voice, memorable quotes, or easily-discernible characteristics other than being yet another evil old fart

vs. The Chad Klaus Schwab :#!chadbaby:

>Supervillain that you least expect, looks like a comic relief sitcom character or your school principal (based)

>Looks like Mr. Clean (even more based)

>Is very open to how he vill make yu own notzing and eat ze bugs!

>Has very iconic and memorable quotes that have spawned and immortalized tons of based and schizopilled memes, parody videos, and soyjaks

>Is a pure Aryan Kraut with a thicc Kraut accent, not a Jew, making all sides seethe at his sheer classic Krautness

>Is more of a patrician conspiracy character, not the "MUH SOROS" normie rants you always hear your boomer uncle post on Facebook

>After Soros kicks the bucket ze Gigachad Schwab VILL inevitably become ze ultimate globohomo conspiracy villain!

>Has openly bragged about how in just a few years people could start using microchips in their brains! (HOLY BASED)

>Knows he has become Soros 2.0 among conspiratoids, doubles down in the conspiracy villain act to make conspiracels seethe and sneed

>Is a Dramachad (gigabased)

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You sat down and wrote all this shit. You could have done so many other things with your life. What happened to your life that made you decide writing novels of bullshit here was the best option?

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What happened to your life that made you decide writing novels of bullshit here was the best option?

:#autism::#marseyautism::#marseynouautism::#marseyautismchonker::#autism:

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Neurodivergents are the backbone of rDrama. :#marseysalutepride:


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We need more leaders of color, women, LGBTQ representation, and others besides.

Why? Aren't 90% of programmers straight white males? Why do they need somebody who looks different than them running things?

If we're going to use that logic, shouldn't all countries in Africa and Asia be governed by white people, since whites are a minority there? Why does this "minority representation" rationale only ever get applied to take things away from white people?

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Aren't 90% of programmers straight white males?

Programming socks are a meme for a reason dear, you're forgetting a very important demographic.

It's okay, they won't forget you.

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He's forgetting all of the H1B workers as well

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A lot of Asian corps are run by yt

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Really? Which ones?

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Wow. Thanks, king!

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So this is how foss die :marseydoomer:

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:marseycapitalistmanlet#:

This was their endgame all along, to be able to sell us software that neurodivergents are currently producing for free

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who is this dude anyway?

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