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Admin of a commie Mastodon instance got arrested, kept all their data at home and now the FBI has it

https://kolektiva.social/@admin/110637031574056150

Kolektiva is an anti-colonial anarchist collective that offers federated social media to anarchist collectives and individuals in the fediverse. For the social movements and liberation!

In mid-May 2023, the home of one of Kolektiva.social's admins was raided, and all their electronics were seized by the FBI. The raid was part of an investigation into a local protest. Kolektiva was neither a subject nor target of this investigation. Today, that admin was charged in relation to their alleged participation in this protest.

Unfortunately, at the time of the raid, our admin was troubleshooting an issue and working with a backup copy of the Kolektiva.social database. This backup, dated from the first week of May 2023, was in an unencrypted state when the raid occurred and it was seized, along with everything else.

The database is the heart of a Mastodon server. A database copy such as the one seized may include any of the following user data, in this case up to date as of early May 2023:

  • User account information like the e-mail address associated with your account, your followers and follows, etc.
  • All your posts: public, unlisted, followers-only, and direct ("DMs").
  • Possibly IP addresses associated with your account - IP addresses on Kolektiva.social are logged for 3 days and then deleted, so IP addresses from any logins in the 3 days prior to the database backup date would be included.
  • A hashed ("encrypted") version of your password.

Orange Site discussion (mostly debating what anarchism actually means)

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>Trusting opsec to some fricking commie r-slur

>yeah bro I had a copy of the whole database because I was totally just troubleshooting

The only surprising thing is they didn't also find CP.

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>anarkiddie

I wouldn't believe it if they hadn't, but I'm also not shocked they aren’t saying that they have.

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They only plant things on chuds r-slur

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That's because they usually don't need to plant CP on the commies in order to find them in posession of CP :marseydetective:

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:marsey#itsallsotiresome:

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I am no expert but my understanding is that anarchy is against rulers, not rules.

why is there ALWAYS some r-slur who comes running in to say this

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My rebuttal to anarkiddies is that we actually live in an anarchy and all of this (society) is just what happens in anarchic conditions

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NOOOOO WHY CANT YOU JUST TAKE MY ANARKIDDY IDEALS SERIOUSLY NOOOOO EVERYONE JUST NEEDS TO AGREE TO NOT FORM HIERARCHIES NOOOOO LIKE OF COURSE AN ANARCHIST COLLECTIVE COULD BE POWERFUL ENOUGH TO BEAT HIERARCHICAL SOCIETIES NOOOO

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so who enforces the rules?

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Whoever is willing to kill for their rules silly.

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The Egalitarian People’s Non-Hierarchical Rules Enforcement Crew

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the Stateless Network Ensuring Equality's Defence

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Fiscally Left :cheers: Socially Right

:unicorn: Nonfiction = Fiction :mummy: Fiction = Nonfiction :!unicorn:

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(Formerly the Council of Handling Undesirable Counterrevolutionary Killers)

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We all just get along

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Technically, he's right. "Anarchy" refers to a state of Statelessness (no State has a monopoly on the 'legitimate' use of force over some specified area). For example, in International Relations they'll say that the world is in a state of anarchy (because there's no one world government with that special monopoly on 'legitimate' violence).

Other than the global scale, there are some examples like Scandinavia which had a network of political factions that controlled that region.

The problem with anarcho-socialists is that they prescribe a set of rules (:marseyshook: socialism) but over some area, but not everyone agrees with that system, so the next step for the commies is to simply impose their de facto State on others. "Anarchy" never holds up for them because they don't like to recognize the private property rights of others.

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how do you enforce private property without a State?


Follower of Christ :marseyandjesus: Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.

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Threat and capacity of violence helps. That and private courts, private security, and basic social norms about keeping your hands to yourself. Maritime law has a long tradition of operating by private courts. It was also one of the beginnings of insurance and international financial transactions, all working at the detriment of kingdoms and other crappy governments.

You're kind of begging the question since States don't automatically enforce private property rights. Today, they regularly infringe upon private property rights by taxing around half of your income or outright taking all of it, as shittier States tend to behave (and against others during times of war).

Anarchy and the Law is a fun collection of real world examples about this.

:marseylove: :marseyreading:

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So you’re an actual an-cap / minarchist?


Follower of Christ :marseyandjesus: Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.

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No, I'm a spontaneous order enthusiast who dabbled 'too heavily' in Public Choice. Arguably, about 20% of a liberal democracy's government budget is necessary. The rest is due to self-centered and/or uninformed politicians, bureaucrats, and especially voters.

People really underestimate markets and voluntary aid, while overestimating the efficacy of government spending and its intentions.

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Im sure we can come to a conclusion on perfect governance on a gay cat dating site, but what do you feel like is essential government activities.

I used to be pretty big on wealfare style programs but the “moral hazard” people above do be taking Ws.


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Some kind of military and subsidies for roads and other actual public goods that markets or voluntary donations cannot sufficiently supply (the current supporters of government involvement generally have yet to prove that standard). Regulation to some degree. Blah blah blah.

Basically, people will jostle for power, so a state having a monopoly on 'legitimate' violence seems necessary. Government should simply tax or subsidize the 'bad' and 'good' things, in order to minimize its direct involvement like with convoluted regulations that number millions of pages.

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do you think fiat money is essential to these systems or something like Bitcoin would be ideal?


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War obviously. Pointless question anyways, there’s no such thing as a stateless society in reality. Everything anarkiddies point to IRL is just a de-facto state that is renamed to sound stateless.

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guns

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can't have anarchy without private property

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They're against functional societies. That's why they're anarcho communists

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They're against functional societies. That's why they're anarcho communists

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This backup, dated from the first week of May 2023, was in an unencrypted state

:#marseylaughpoundfist:

Holy shit, that's a massive L.

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What protest is it mentioning and what are the exact charges?

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I've been trying to find out but Mastodon search is cancerous.

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May was the Subway Hobo Killer protests.

So probably something stupid like saying something worth glowie attention about the NYC mayor.

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Seems legit :marseythumbsup:

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No doubt we'll see a wave of arrests of college dropout stoners in the coming days as the FBI rushes to wipe out this very serious threat to our civilization. Some of these kids may have even begun stockpiling weed and hot pockets for the coming revolution.

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They are going to recruit all of them as snitches.

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Anarchists are composed of giant gullible r-slurs, actual p-dophiles like Hakim Bey, and feds.

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I have no idea who Hakim Bey is but at least 2 of the top leaders of the Portland anarchist/BLM scene have admitted to statch. Really an amazing development that nobody could have forseen.

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The only Mastodon I'll acknowledge :marseyagree:

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/16882508839085865.webp

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I'm not really into knife play but I'll punch you :#marseypunching:

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Started listening to them recently, I fricking love leviathan

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Disregard leviathan retvrn to remission

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Honestly, they haven't put out an album I didn't like :marseyjamming:

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>The Fediverse is clearly not a safe space for the Fed-averse.

:boomerjam: I dig it.

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i hope the defense is "trump did it"

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this is the third time this happened and i’m willing to bet that absolutely zero of the people on this instance learned not to send private dms over the fedoverse

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:#marseychefkiss:

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OP doesn't know what communism is.

They're "literally shaking" as a result of just the word itself.

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Real communism has never been tried!

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So then why are you fluffing your post with mention of it?

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:#marseysoypoint:

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Maybe because it’s impossible to implement

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Why are mastodon admins allowed to even see your dms lmao?

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They're stored in the database, just like they are on Twitter/Reddit/rDrama.

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@Aevann don't say you can read my sexting dms with @Penny :marseyflushzoom:

Jewish lives matter

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Yeah but they’re encrypted right? Why in the world do they have unecrypted dms stored on the server?

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No, they're not encrypted. Twitter was trialling end-to-end encryption for DMs but I don't know how that's going.

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Wow that’s concerning I thought the fediverse was supposed to be secure

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not at all, it's just decentralized. The only way to have a "secure" instance is to run it yourself or have everyone in conversations pgp encrypt their stuff. Considering the average fediverse user is a wingcuck that will never happen

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Mastodon is based upon the ActivityPub protocol for federation, which does not support end-to-end encryption of PMs. Most chat services don't have any encryption of PMs either.

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admin here can

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only i can

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:capybigbrain: thank God lol any feature to delete dms coming up bb or is that :capyhacker: 2 much work?

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too much work sry queen

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np bb dw kk just wondering have a beautiful n safe weekend bb 🤲🏾🤲🏾

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Yeah but they’re freaks it’s assumed

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the capy said only he can thankfully bc i don't need the pissed off :marseytrain: jannies going thru my dms bc they malding st me

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Anarchism is intelectualized r-sluration

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Don't be mean to children

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When I was maybe 8 years old my dad explained to me that communism doesn't work because some people will just call in sick everyday. :taymindblown:

I was never enough of a child to need an explanation for why anarchism doesn't work.

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:marseynull: but making this facial expression and paw gesture :marseysmug3:

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This glows like Chernobyl :marseyglow2:

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Really puts the "fed" in fediverse.

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An online forum for communists? What's it called?

*braces for word salad impact*

"Kolektiva?" oh that's lame. That actually makes some sense. They should have gone with 'Memorandum Groundhog' or 'Shibboleth Parachute' and maybe they'd have a podcast deal.

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Unfortunately, the clock is ticking

The hours are going by. The past increases, the future recedes. Possibilities decreasing, regrets mounting.

Do you understand?

I understand<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>remain ignorant

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:#marseyrave: commies btfo again, frick communism.


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