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Hackers discuss :marseynull: and financial censorship

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36805998

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Taking down KwikFarms are not a responsibility of payment systems. It should be FBI or maybe a drone strike if they are abroad. [Flagged]


What is the Kiwi Farms?

Be happy that you do not know.


A less generous interpretation is that they coordinate harassment campaigns against transgender people and have caused at least three suicides.

That was proven to be false. [Flagged]

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I like how people hekkin love science until it's time to do your own research outside wikipedia.

"they killed 6 million trans people. it says so on Wikipedia. Don't go there yourself. It's a hive of scum and villainy:marseywookiee:" :soysnoo:

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Wikipedia has managed to turn itself into an absolute joke these past few years. I still can't tell if that's because of the partisan editors or just because the media are so much bolder in lying about subjects.

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It's a beautiful cycle of media lies empowering wikipedos and vice versa

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Wikipedia pro top: If the article has a lock icon on the top right, you are reading propaganda

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Wikipedia pro tip: you are reading propaganda

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I think there's two main factors:

  • Wikipedia articles are based on the principle of reliable sources (it's not for an encyclopedia to decide that they are wrong). Most of the time people sperg out about this, Wikipedia is accurately reflecting what the reliable sources say, and it's the underlying sources that actually need correcting.

  • On disputed topics, where working with other editors is necessary, you need turbo-autism to put in enough time and effort to get changes to stick through drive-by edits, reversions, RFCs, etc. This is a small fraction of articles though ones that often get a lot of readers.

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Wikipedia articles are based on the principle of reliable sources (it's not for an encyclopedia to decide that they are wrong). Most of the time people sperg out about this, Wikipedia is accurately reflecting what the reliable sources say, and it's the underlying sources that actually need correcting.

The issue here is that which sources are "reliable" is subject to consensus, at which point mob rule takes over. For example Fox News is relentlessly reviewed with the intention of finding an excuse to ban it, whereas MSNBC apparently gets a free pass. Shockingly the only sources treated as reliable are those that back up the leftoid editors.

Similarly, the Daily Express (rightoid UK tabloid) is banned, yet the Daily Mirror (similar leftoid UK tabloid) is allowed. The partisans are relentless at trying to manipulate these internal policies.

On disputed topics, where working with other editors is necessary, you need turbo-autism to put in enough time and effort to get changes to stick through drive-by edits, reversions, RFCs, etc. This is a small fraction of articles though ones that often get a lot of readers.

Oh definitely, much of it is selective opposition. Add something negative to the Trump article and nobody will kick up a fuss, but add something positive and they'll fight tooth and nail to exclude it, calling every obscure rule under the sun.

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If it's the kind of thing only covered by either Fox News or MSNBC, it's probably not weighty enough to include at all, especially when those are usually not doing original reporting. Try throwing out WP:NOTNEWS when people try that (you aren't going to overcome the partisan bias so you have to side-step it).

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That doesn't prevent them from using the likes of MSNBC and The Independent to label anyone remotely conservative as "far right".

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It's always been that way. "No original research" means no primary sources, and since all secondary sources bend to the will of censorship you're left with nothing to cite.

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There's no contradiction there. They hekkin' love science in the sense that they love what a mainstream newspaper told them that this or that the men in the white coats said. Reading and critically analyzing scientific papers is not part of the game.

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Mentioning p values gets you gigajannied in edits :marseygiveup:

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