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Feds want speed reduction tech in every new car. Are American drivers ready?
On a Saturday afternoon in January 2022, a 2018 Dodge Challenger ran through a stop sign in Las Vegas, picked up the pace to a speed of 103 miles per hour and flew through an intersection on a red light. The Dodge struck the right side of a Toyota Sienna minivan, which carried seven occupants, causing four more vehicles to crash. The driver and passenger of the Dodge, as well as every passenger in the minivan, died.
The National Transportation Safety Board, a U.S. government agency that investigates such accidents, found that in this scenario and many others like it, a technology that limits the speed of vehicles could have mitigated the scale of this tragedy. The driver, who was found to have cocaine and PCP in his system which impaired his decision-making, had a record for breaking the speed limit.
The NTSB concluded that intelligent speed-assist technology (ISA) should be standard equipment in all new vehicles to prevent needless deaths. It's no longer enough, the agency argues, to rely on states to deter driver speeding and recidivism. The agency, which doesn't have the power to make regulations, is calling on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to mandate the use of this technology going forward.
“This crash is the latest in a long line of tragedies we've investigated where speeding and impairment led to catastrophe, but it doesn't have to be this way,” said NTSB Chair Jennifer Homendy in a statement. “We know the key to saving lives is redundancy, which can protect all of us from human error that occurs on our roads. What we lack is the collective will to act on NTSB safety recommendations.”
An NHTSA spokesperson told TechCrunch that the agency welcomes NTSB's input and carefully reviews it, especially when considering potential regulatory actions.
How it works
ISA technology relies on a car's GPS location and matches it to a database of posted speed limits and onboard cameras to come up with the legal speed limit. Passive ISA systems warn a driver when the vehicle exceeds the speed limit through sound, visuals or haptic alerts, leaving the driver responsible for slowing the car. Active systems might make it more difficult to increase the speed of a vehicle, or even fully limit it from going, above a posted speed limit.
Some Americans might chafe at the idea of an active ISA system that limits their freedom of movement. Limiting any freedom hits at the core of the American libertarian psyche and could be perceived as government overreach. Americans often have a general distrust of government interference and regulation, and might claim that limiting speeds is just the beginning. Some may even argue that ISA technology could hinder a quick getaway during an emergency situation.
From a technological standpoint, different sign designs and time-of-day speeds might make it difficult for ISA tech to be reliable.
That said, it's undeniable that speeding is one of the leading causes of traffic-related deaths. According to recent NHTSA data, almost one-third of all traffic-related deaths are the direct result of speeding.
Europe first
In Europe, ISA technology is already mandated for all new vehicles as of 2022, according to the European Commission's Vehicle General Safety Regulation (GSR), which requires vehicles to have 90% accuracy for ISA systems. The GSR also includes requirements for mandatory advanced driver assistance systems (ADAS), including emergency automated braking systems and lane assistance technology.
Volvo recently announced its EX30 electric vehicle with Google Built-in will have a passive ISA technology, making it eligible for GSR certification. Google Built-in, which is also in brands like Chevrolet, Renault, Polestar and Honda, relies on Maps rather than just the car's cameras to get accurate speed limits. The Maps team analyzes traffic trends, gathers local data and cross-references street view or third-party partner data, according to a blog post by Siddharth Shashidharan, a Google Maps product manager.
Appealing to automakers
Following its investigation in the Las Vegas crash, the NTSB also asked 17 automakers, including BMW, Ford, General Motors, Honda and VW, to equip new vehicles with speed-assistance features. The agency recommends that vehicles have a speed warning system at a minimum, but would likely support more robust action.
The NTSB has asked NHTSA to act on the adoption of ISA tech before. In 2017, the agency asked NHTSA to incentivize adoption of ISA through a New Car Assessment Program. As of February, NHTSA is currently reviewing public comments and is expected to post a final decision on the matter in 2023.
The NTSB has also recommended that NHTSA research and develop guidelines to help states implement a pilot ISA program that would limit the vehicle speed for repeat offenders. New York has done a pilot with such technology and is considering legislation.
Having a passive ISA system in vehicles seems like a no-brainer, considering the amount of ADAS going into new cars today, much of which promises to drive your car for you in certain circumstances. Lawmakers have also introduced, for example, legislation around driver monitoring systems, which can detect when a driver is tired, not paying attention or under the influence and take action.
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OH BOY I LOVE MORE INTERNET CONNECTIVITY ADDED ONTO COMPLEX MACHINES I TRUST MY LIFE TO
GOD I FRICKING LOVE SOFTWARE
!CODECELS DON'T YOU LOVE SOFTWARE TOO
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!chuds
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OMG DADDY GOODLE PLEASE CONTROL EVERY ASLECT OF MY LIFE I DONT WANT TO BE ABLE TO VISIT FRIENDS AND FAMILY WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND APPROVAL
AHHHHHHH IM GONNA FEDPOOOOOOOOST
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"It seems a hacker
took over the speed 
controls of that car and made it plow into a school. tragic 
but how could we ever have predicted this?"
"A political
enemy?!? You're telling me this guy who died did wrongthink?!? Well how could we ever have known about tha - hey, I don't like what you're insinuating here!"
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The only reason the glowies win is because they are still more trustworthy than the average American.
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Smart car features prevent stupid mistakes, they work perfectly
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I understand Kaczynski more every day
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I fail to see the issue.
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how would the minivan avoid it lol its not his fault he got t boned by some fool going 100 thats so fast u dont even see em coming
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The minivan could have simply left 20 seconds later or earlier, it then would've been slightly in front of or behind the charger
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Mr Magoo could have seen that 100 mph vehicle coming. Do you think it's noiselessly gliding out there?
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yea someone going 100 in a charger would be loud as heck but if you are going thru an intersection after a dead stop at 5-10 mph in some shitty minivan weighed down with 7 (I'm assuming Mexican, altho race wasn't mentioned) people u can't exactly get out of the path of an out of control car going 105 mph. Most accidents are avoidable and maybe that was as well but I'm not about to call the minivan family/group r-slurred unless I see the video and they do something obviously stupid
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Common sense like not making the coffee witch-pyre hot to save a little on coffee turnaround
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Do you cry and scream
at mommy 
when you eat the hot fresh 
pizza 
that everyone 
said would 
burn your mouth 
and it does?
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Drink hand sanitizer
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Only in rehab
when ive run out of mouthwash.
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Or putting it in the cup holder and not driving around with it between your legs pressed up against your grussy
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Forgive me for being surprised this shit is so hot it will melt clothes into my skin and turn me into a Tim Burton reimagining of a mermaid
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I spilled boiling soup on my hand and the skin literally
melted and slid off. What do you think 
her gussy 
looked like
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Is grussy a gussy
with gristle?
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Reddit
common knowledge makes me close 
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This needs to include super cars and private jets.
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We'd prevent most accidents by banning Dodge and Subaru
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And bmw, nothing says I'm an butthole like bmw
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Lmao they arent gonna give you a coupon theyll pull you over, make you watch a 10 minute youtube™️ video that could have been one. It will have an unskippable two minute ad for Arby's™️ and six skippable ads for various climate change scams. The solar ads will take you to their website on the cars atrocious browser if you mistap the 5x5 pixel skip button.
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Frick I hate the government.
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What race was the driver?
Oh he was the same race as the two kids that ran over a bicyclist on purpose and the 15 kids that beat another kid to death.
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it was a dodge charger the pic is unnecessary
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Take a wild guess https://nypost.com/2022/02/02/gary-dean-robinson-driver-in-nevada-crash-that-killed-9-had-history-of-speeding
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I updated it as you posted.
He was a Cocaine-PCP-American
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Amazing how much of modern politics boils down to layers of obfuscation and duct tape. The root causes cannot be talked about, so we're left with increasingly ridiculous workarounds.
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I will continue doing 180 in my shitty 60 PS HyundaiI10 on the Autobahn tyvm
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I, too, enjoy the sound of a 1 liter engine revving at 6000rpm for the duration of a full road trip.
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Actually
frick yea I do especially on !boozers
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But unironically
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First of all,
Second,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoofing_attack#Global_navigation_satellite_system_spoofing
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Anybody want to crowdsource parts to build
killdozers?
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Who would have guessed that knowingly letting r-slurs continue their reckless behaviour would lead to such tragedy.
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The only way to prevent this is novel introduction of the panopticon because holding people accountable before they explode is really mean
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I'm so happy in the Congo8mo ago #5399796 spent 0 currency on pingsEither do that or stop giving cars to crack heads
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I am literally never going to buy a car newer than 2015.
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Well there's the problem, tbh just screen drivers out based on what they drive, tard drivers always drive the same cars
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Lololol
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if they just apply this to nissan sedans and literally any dodge it would probably cut fatalities in half
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This rules. They tried this in Japan in the early 80s and criminals bypassed it, thereby having the fastest cars on the road.
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where can i read about this?
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Read up on bosozoku/yanki/kaido lore. I think I found the info on some ancient blogs.
All cars in Japan were (and still are) speed limited, though I believe the limits were much lower. Bosozoku gangs would remove the limiters and run amok on the roads, outpacing even the cop cars which were speed limited. It ended up changing how the japs deal with chases, they no longer pursue runners. Instead they close off exit ramps and funnel them into a dead end where they have squad cars and flat decks waiting.
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So will this update for construction zones?
And while were at it, direct gps in the car means we are more tracked than even normal
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I mean, why don't they mandate carmakers make the engines smaller/less powerful? Maybe I'm r-slurred
but that seems way easier that some GPS-connected gizmo that will be bypassed the minute it hits the streets.
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It's about the authoritarian humiliation. They want you to notice it and they want your car to be connected to glowie HQ.
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yet again BIPOCs serve their purpose of implementing more draconian laws to oppress law abiding citizens.
also, i was sitting in a parking lot while writing this comment and heard this loud butt engine, looked up and saw a dodge challenger going like 40 over trying to hit a corner in the rain. sometimes stories play out right in front of your eyes
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re: downmarseys
You came at me. I was very sincere about what I wrote, and you made a snide comment. I know this is the Internet, and I know people like you are happy to make drive-by-snarks, and hit the downmarsey button when someone makes you look silly, but next time you get the temptation to show everyone how clever you think you are, remember this:
You're not as smart, not as clever, not as funny as you think you are, and there are people like me that will shut you down. Act like an adult, or unplug the keyboard you're hiding behind.
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