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I guess I'm just a boomer now. Does purchasing NFTs of art have any benefit to the owner outside of claiming they "own" something that is infinitely reproducible? Do NFT owners hold a copyright on the image?

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Copyright and the exclusive right to monetize them for commercial purposes, supposedly. I don't think anyone has been sued over saving and using someone else's NFT for profit yet though.

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So literally standard fare intellectual property rights but more legally dubious. And if you want to enforce your “”right”” you still have to go to a real court like a chump. Congratulations tech bros, you’re rediscovering IP law.

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most NFTs (bought from the more famous websites) don't come with the copyright, they usually get permission to use, resell but not to actually own it

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Yeah that's pretty cucked. I wouldn't even consider getting one if it didn't come with legal rights attached. Maybe its all just 2deep4me

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it was meant to be come with the legal rights (they would be pretty useful if that were the case) but then zoomers started buying NFTs with no rights attached and that lead to The Market™ doing its thing. if you can sell something without selling it, who wouldn't do it

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Can different sites create NFTs from the exact same thing?

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at that point you have to start actually thinking about the block-chain and some complicated stuff, but, yes

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It all sounds so worthless. Without an institution with authority backing validity and rights of the token what is even the point?

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the two sites generating an NFT from the same problem is very specific, and although a problem like that would have to be settled on court, NFTs ideal use are as a form of donation to an artist and that doesn't require an "authority backing validity" besides the artist themselves

but that's too complicated, zoomers will just use NFTs to buy pictures of monkeys

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Yes, with no complications actually.

t. someone who actually researched crypto

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does every site have their own independent block-chain?

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No, most of them use big blockchains like Ethereum. But since NFTs are just links within a block, anyone could mint a token with the same image within the same block, and no one would have the authority to invalidate it.

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... claiming they "own" something that is infinitely reproducible? Do NFT owners hold a copyright on the image?

The data is reproducable, but the token associated with it isn't. That system is designed to prevent double-spending. The image is really just there to give some personal meaning to the token in the same way that a CSGO skin's texture gives meaning to the "item" which is really just a database entry, even though you can just copy the texture yourself or make a CSGO server that lets you play with the skins. Do the owners hold copyright on the image? Probably not unless the creator of the image licenses it like that, but It doesn't really matter. It's like trading cards or CSGO skins.

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I feel like a digital good on a centralized server makes more sense though cause they can enforce it on official servers. Probably a non-zero amount of people feel like buying them to support the F2P game too - like reddit gold.

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The only NFTs I’ve seen that have any practical use outside of crypto gaming ponzis are ENS addresses that allow me to take payments as Suprememe.eth instead of an unambiguous string of hexadecimal.

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so like a namecoin type thing?

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Yep. ENS took a good chunk of Namecoin’s model and found a bunch of success with it because Ethereum’s popularity lead to integration across almost all modern wallets. I think you can even set up ENS addresses to resolve like a DNS address through a few select browsers such as Brave.

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I'm not really a big fan of the namecoin model to be honest. Either you can get your domain stolen by someone with more money/PoW, or you can squat domains forever. You sort of need some level of beurocracy to prevent that, even if you have a petname system like GNS. It's a human problem fundamentally.

Also you can sort of "mine" for "good" public keys already. For example with tor onion addresses, the facebooks is facebookwkhpilnemxj7asaniu7vnjjbiltxjqhye3mhbshg7kx5tfyd.onion.

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That's where ENS differs. There's no risk of getting your domain stolen through 51% attacks, there's a governance model to handle bureaucratic management, you have to renew registration on your domains, and registration costs scale with the length of the domain so squatters weren't able to cheaply scoop up all the names under 5 character length.

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Isnt that how every artpiece works?

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If you own the Mona Lisa, you own a physical object with a specific history. The paint was applied by a great master, and every brush stroke is his. You can move it where you want, or even destroy it. The distinction between the Mona Lisa and a reproduction or artistic copy may be minor to an average person, but no one could argue it's literally the same. At very least it's an interesting and unique curiosity.

Digital art was created on a computer and stays on computers. You can have infinite copies of the original file that are all indistinguishable at an absolute level, there is no such thing as an original. So the only unique aspect would be the creator's statement that you own the reproducible image, which seems to impart ambiguous rights, or none at all.

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