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https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-suspended-us-green-card-applications-foreign-workers-2024-4

https://twitter.com/Carnage4Life/status/1786007150562828542

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It used to be as a foreign worker you'd get sponsored for a green card after working at a big tech for a few years.

But due to layoffs companies have to first make a case for why they laid off an American to then sponsor a foreigner. Google, now Amazon and others have stopped it

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Tomorrow's news will be how it's because they are laying off to move operations to India. Nobody can beat the :marseytunaktunak:


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makes sense. If you're going to hire sexy Indian dudes, would you rather pay them california wages or Bengaluru wages?

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Look i hired a few and regretted the shit out of it. I just its not even a language barrier its an everything barrier. Would not matter if they were here or there. I mean am I missing something? Why do companies use this labor

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Indian-Americans or even Indian-Indians who went through a western education system are fine, imho. The cheat-and-grind culture in Indian education is fricking cancer, though. Like, I don't give a shit that you hacked all the tests to pass: the tests are supposed to verify that the actual code does what you claim it does.

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My feelings too. I worked with American educated Indians and they were fine. It's the ones in India that are always so scammy.


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It all comes down to someone who has never worked with them looking at an Excel spreadsheet somewhere.

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And they never ask the follow up question

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I'm self-employed but sometimes I get to see the "effort" they put in when I do work for companies who will hire people from India. I don't know if they lying about their qualifications/too stupid to do the work or if they're trying to scam to company by blowing off the work. If it's the latter, that's a different kind of stupidity because I think they get paid pretty well for India and would make good money honestly if they actually tried.

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Usually they are lying about their qualifications and too stupid to do the work. Some of the Indian people I work with will work very long hours and be online talking to US teammates until 12am their time, but they get basically nothing done because they're under-qualified and r-slurred. It's often not a lack of effort.

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This has been my experience with outsourced labor from cheap markets as well. They are trying but they are bad to the point of being actively harmful.

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That's what I'm thinking. Pay them $5/hour in India and you can say you're helping the poor at the same time.


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Problem is you then have to pay the $5/hr for the :marseytunaktunak: plus a regular salary for a real dev in the US to fix whatever they did

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Yep, but then we get to see sexy Indian dudes talk about how Amazon hires in India because Americans aren't qualified for their job. It's fun.


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No shit the amount of terlets they buy up is obscene

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>offshore everything to jeetland

>code production 10xes

>SWE job creation booms in the US

>staff developer, $500K-$1.2M

>please just fix it

>please, add a zero if you need to

>oh my god I can't take another zoom call with Poovendran

>please I'll do anything

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Several years ago Coca Cola outsourced their entire IT department. They even moved a lot of their infrastructure to cloud service. Their staff was split between India and Ukraine. Friend of mine was laid off because of this. A few years pass and they were scrambling to rebuild their entire IT department from the ground up, not sure what issues spurred this but it was only like 2 or 3 years like that before they started rehiring people.

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Not surprising. Nobody talks about it because raaaahcist but everyone knows and has seen what happens when you outsource to another country without paying someone to clean up after them.


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