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Intel claims it's a voltage issue, microcode issue coming in August

https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/July-2024-Update-on-Instability-Reports-on-Intel-Core-13th-and/m-p/1617113#M74792

Based on extensive analysis of Intel Core 13th/14th Gen desktop processors returned to us due to instability issues, we have determined that elevated operating voltage is causing instability issues in some 13th/14th Gen desktop processors. Our analysis of returned processors confirms that the elevated operating voltage is stemming from a microcode algorithm resulting in incorrect voltage requests to the processor.

Intel is delivering a microcode patch which addresses the root cause of exposure to elevated voltages. We are continuing validation to ensure that scenarios of instability reported to Intel regarding its Core 13th/14th Gen desktop processors are addressed. Intel is currently targeting mid-August for patch release to partners following full validation.

Intel is committed to making this right with our customers, and we continue asking any customers currently experiencing instability issues on their Intel Core 13th/14th Gen desktop processors reach out to Intel Customer Support for further assistance.


Other link - https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-finally-announces-a-solution-for-cpu-crashing-errors-claims-elevated-voltages-are-the-root-cause-fix-coming-by-mid-august

Intel statement on via oxidation

Short answer: We can confirm there was a via Oxidation manufacturing issue (addressed back in 2023) but it is not related to the instability issue.

Long answer: We can confirm that the via Oxidation manufacturing issue affected some early Intel Core 13th Gen desktop processors. However, the issue was root caused and addressed with manufacturing improvements and screens in 2023. We have also looked at it from the instability reports on Intel Core 13th Gen desktop processors and the analysis to-date has determined that only a small number of instability reports can be connected to the manufacturing issue.

For the Instability issue, we are delivering a microcode patch which addresses exposure to elevated voltages which is a key element of the Instability issue. We are currently validating the microcode patch to ensure the instability issues for 13th/14th Gen are addressed. - Intel representative via Reddit.

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!codecels reminder that intelcels have been coping hard ever since ryzen 3000 made intel obsolete

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Never buying Autism Mega Cute butches processors

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also by the time MSI releases updated bios ill be dead

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!codecels Microcode. :marseysurejan:

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That's what Sexy Indian dude has in his pants

:#marseytrollolol:

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Hey guys sorry our silicon is oxidizing heres some microcode to make up for it!! (normies will never install it)

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(normies will never install it)

Both Windows and Linux automatically update CPU microcode.

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They can't even update a bios from desktop

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This is completely unrelated.

I think you have the wrong mental model how microcode updates work. You don't flash a CPU with new microcode, you load it at startup, it's temporary. Both BIOSes and operating system kernels have the ability to load microcode.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/software-security-guidance/best-practices/microcode-update-guidance.html

The operating system (OS) should check if it has a more recent microcode update (higher update revision) than the version applied by the BIOS. If it does, the OS should load that microcode update shortly after BIOS hands off control to the OS.

And indeed, here's an example Windows update with Intel microcode:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb4346085-intel-microcode-updates-2eb8dbe3-7548-be9d-5153-50027073ea5e

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You can on both, Linux has "fwupd" to handle firmware updates on modern-ish system (13th and 14th would totally qualify).

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they can. even some windows xp era mobos could.

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It's been year and a half since first reports of instability, not to mention they must've spent millions replacing CPU's for their business customers.

Intel is either completely incompetent if it's not fixed by now, or - they're lying :marseypikachu2:

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not to mentioned they must've spent millions replacing CPU's for their business customers.

Just saying, that's what insurance is for. Low level problems can be hard to replicate and even then, figuring out the cause isn't always straight forward.


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Anyone who was actually good at Intel fricked off a long time ago, so really could be a coin flip.

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They know exactly what is wrong with the code

It will just take them the better part of a month to write a correction for the code

But at least they know "a key element" is in the code

So clearly they just need time to write a new version of the code

You'll see

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>13th/14th Gen

Outdated hardware chads winning again :#marseycool:

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Lol @ running anything newer than 10 years old. just fricking imagine it

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:marsey#dicklet:

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If it's a voltage issue it would have been fixed forever ago through BIOS updates

It's probably caused by some other issue but lowering voltages slows down the degradation and they're hoping that if they can make the defective chips last a year or so more then people will start upgrading too the next generation before their CPUs fail

black lives matter

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Deflection seems to be their go-to response now.

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Updated my Asus MB with newest bios to set my 13900KS to "Intel recommended settings" and it crashes way more than ever now. I get thrown to bluescreen from some games :marseylegioncommander: which never :marseyitsover: happened before.

Can't even rma since I delidded, oh well.

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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Arch GNU/Linux. The packages are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of pacman most of the packages will go over a typical user's head. There's also AUR, which is deftly woven into your system - its personal philosophy draws heavily from Richard Stallman literature, for instance. The true Arch GNU/Linux users understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these packages, to realize that they're not just free software- they say something deep about GNU/Linux. As a consequence people who dislike GNU/Linux truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Stallman's existencial catchphrase "Free software, free society," which itself is a cryptic reference to Torvald's epic Linux kernel. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Stallman's genius unfolds itself on their monitors. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Arch GNU/Linux tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

Snapshots:

https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/July-2024-Update-on-Instability-Reports-on-Intel-Core-13th-and/m-p/1617113#M74792:

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