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Feeling super smug now that I went with the Ryzen 7 7800X3D![:marseysmug: :marseysmug:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseysmug.webp)
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Ryzen gang, Ryzen up!
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AMD + Nvidia combo here![:marseythumbsup: :marseythumbsup:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseythumbsup.webp)
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I was kicking myself for buying a 12th gen last summer and wished I'd sprung for the 13, I feel so fricking lucky rn.
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Me asf
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Jannied for not being gaming related LOL
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Those extremely unimportant gaming components, CPUS
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What a massive fricking L for Intel.
The lack of communication throughout this was terrible.
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They managed to make sure it came out on a Friday though
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My team works pretty closely with Intel and we hired a bunch of senior ex-Intel engineers. Seems like kind of a mess to be honest, I'm not really sure what the future holds for them.
Consumer stuff is shifting to ARM, and based on what Apple has done with their silicone, I see zero reason to want to stay on x86. Not sure what will happen with server grade stuff, that's mostly still Intel from what I've seen, but I'm not really a hardware person.
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I think they can coast on x86 for a loooong time. Fact is a lot of economic juggernauts are built off the premise that a line-of-business app from 2007 written in C# that no one has the source to will continue working for decades.
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Yeah maybe that's enough to keep them afloat but unless they find a way to either innovate and stay on top of the CPU market or actually make headway on GPU development, they are in for tough times IMO.
No idea what it would take for them to close the gap with nvidia, but that's probably what I'd be wanting to do if I were them. It's probably more likely that nvidia goes and builds some crazy SOC onto an A100 and cuts them out of the GPU server market though.
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You can run that shit on arm with a thin compatibility layer. faster than it ran in 2007 too, not a high bar. But the slowdown even for current day apps is minimal, that's really not a big issue unless you're gaming or something else that needs 100% of the hardware.
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All they had to do was offer like 100/200/300 off for owners of i3s/i5s/i7s respectfully
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You think? I mean the CPUs are simply broken, some reports are as high as 25%![:marseymindblown: :marseymindblown:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseymindblown.webp)
I think they'll face some serious legal action if they were selling faulty products for two generations.
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I FEEL like the USA is generally forgiving to companies when their customers are happy. I know regulatory wise and he'll even enterprise wise they are likely going to be fricked in the butt BUT as far as the average Joe goes? They know PCs are super sensitive machines and shits gonna happen, but if they're given a heavily subsidized new cpu even if still broken doesn't really matter. Just look at Nintendo and their joycons that are by design broken for almost a decade. Thy did like 4 years of free repairs and then everyone stopped caring
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I rarely agree with redditors, especially nerd redditors but this actually is. TWO GENERATIONS OF CPUs!! How does this happen, it's insane.
AMD is loving this though. They've made big strides in the past decade and now they're looking quite good compared to intel which I couldn't have predicted even 6 years ago
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After 3.5gb +.5fb gtx970 nothing surprises me
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Is microcode like code written buy dudes with small peepees or something? Do you have to be a jeet in order to learn it?
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Sometimes
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Basically each instruction in a cpu will be translated to a set of gate (function) to apply on registers (data). As these set of gate can have overlap (you should reuse the AND gate set for the NAND and so on), the instructions are different (here the AND and NAND) from the actual cpu input.
One particular use case is the multiplication : You will write down an instruction for a multiplication and your CPU will take X cycle, which depend on what underlying gate he has to call (a 32x32 multiplication directly fit in one register (64 bit on a modern cpu), but a 64x64 will most likely be done in a few cycle to compute the lower and upper bits).![:marseyhomofascist: :marseyhomofascist:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyhomofascist.webp)
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Some combination of
and ![:marseytrain: :marseytrain:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseytrain.webp)
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AMDynasty confirmed
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Man I'm glad I built my last PC with an AMD chip but fricking christ I wish they wouldn't put the pins on the chip. Like are they just doing that to be different? I have actually wrecked a CPU in the past by inserting it slightly wrong. Skill issue, I understand, but I don't get why.
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It wasn't an issue for the first 40 years of computing chips, skill issue
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I already admitted it was a skill issue![:marseyraging: :marseyraging:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyraging.webp)
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Sorry didn't read all that fr![:marseyzoomer: :marseyzoomer:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyzoomer.webp)
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frick me. Is that why my computer keeps crashing and stuttering? If it's a hardware issue then why'd it only start over the past week?
what the frick am I supposed to do?
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Pray
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Mine isn't on the list of the most affected ones at least. It's an i5-13400f. I have no fricking clue how to implement any of these fixes.
or how to test my performance.
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Download CPU-Z https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Install, open it, check what the "stepping" box says, if it's C0, CPU should not be the issue, if it's B0, it might be your problem - although 13400f shouldn't be degrading that quickly
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I'm on linux. I'll find a linux equivalent and use that.
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Where's the list of most affected ones? I've had a i9-13900K for over a year now and its been fine.
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I got it from this reddit post. https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1e9h473/intel_cpu_owners_of_the_13th_and_14th_gen_cpu/
Yours is on it. There's a good chance yours was made before all these defects if nothing's happened so far.
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The 13400f has a base power draw of 65 which is the limit where the cpu starts degrading. The 13400f specifically boosts up to 150 watts when going faster.
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where'd you see this? Do you know how I should prevent it from degrading further?
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It's been assumed to be 65 watts because it seems to be only be desktop i5 and i7 CPUS. The microcode update will fix the voltage issue but if your cpu is already degraded it's basically waiting to stop
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Can I get a screaming deal on a defective but high end CPU? Would there be any point?
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Yes you could no there wouldn't be it seems. Degradation occurs above 65watts and when you're i7 line is pulling 200 watts you're probably stuck with i5 underclockimg and i3s
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!everyone Hi it's snappy good morning![:marseywave2: :marseywave2:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseywave2.webp)
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Hmm I have a newish gen 13 i7 in one of my servers. I wonder if I can finesse my way into free shit somehow.
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