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They shouldn't use bottled water to cool server farms, they should bring their own re-useable bottles and fill them up.

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They should use environmentally friendly pepsi

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I assume it's some bullshit calculation extrapolating the amount of water lost to humidity by the industrial evaporative cooling used for the entire building


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It's a shame that every process that uses water, from growing livestock to cooling, does so in a permanent way by irreversibly atomicaly annihilating the water molecules and banishing them from this universe

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"Water is a fricking finite resource, and every drop matters." — Facebook (now Meta) Sustainability Report 2020

literal first sentence of the fricking study's intro

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These tards assume that if Southern :marseypastor: California's water :marseykayak: use is unsustainable then the whole world's must be. B-word :marseyarthoe3: pls, we got this thing called the Columbia River :marseykayak: and it just constantly pours into the ocean :marseyblahaj: more water :marseyarchie: than we could ever use.

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These tards assume that if Southern :marseypastor: California's water :marseykayak: use is unsustainable then the whole world's must be.

...This is the most r-slurred statement I have ever read on this site and I was here since the very beginning. You truly are the special anon.

There is a global water crisis ongoing right now.

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Stfu no there isn't. Some places have water shortages, other places don't, just like always. The places that do need to conserve water, the places that don't don't. There's nothing global about that.

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This is the most American exceptionalism post I have ever read.

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Never ever call me an american again

keep yourself safe

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You are American deal with it.

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I know we got some major tards here so I indulge anyone who might just be stupid, but this is insulting my intelligence. :marseyoctopus2:

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More than 700 million people don't have access to clean safe drinking water. If that's not a global crisis I don't know what is.

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R-slurs get what they deserve for settling in some uninhabitable desert or whatever

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Its gonna blow your mind when I tell ya the rainy places shift over time r-slur.

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More than 700 million people don't have water to clean safe drinking water.

Why would they need water to clean safe drinking water?

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Thanks fixed.

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Thank you for helping me discover the :marseyblahaj: marsey, have a blessed Saturday

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That's not even a real marsey! :marseysmughipskorean:

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Darn, finite? Anyone here wanna buy my pee? I don't need it.

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freemen from dune but capitalist

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If only congress could pass a thermodynamic law that would conserve mass.

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Nah, it's probably based on all the rain water that falls yearly in the state where the servers are.

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Prolly also water boiled to produce electricity. Bonus points if they didn't even take into account cooling towers :marseyreactor: , though I doubt it

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No their air conditioners are called chillers and cool water that is used to cool the air in the building. You can use the amount of heat produced to get a pretty direct result of how much water you'd need.

Googling is hard though so it makes sense to just assume r-slurred shit instead.

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How are you determining "amount of heat produced" for ChatGPT to do something?

It's neat that you want to be an antagonistic peepee for no reason, but I'm talking about a specific type of rooftop unit that uses open-air water to cool the coils, not closed-loop chilled water.

I've been inside them. I've wired the master blower fan for them.

One project I was on, the engineers fricked up and they had to reinforce the roof because they upsized the rooftop unit without factoring in the extra weight of the water.


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So you're aware of the different cooling systems but are pretending you don't understand how much water is used by the chillers? That's asanine. Evaporative cooling would be the lowest source of water used.

how would they know how much heat it takes

Because all of the electricity used in a chip is turned into heat. It would be very straight forward to calculate with publicly available data.

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How much water is 'used' by evaporative cooling is not as simple as "the chip draws 100 watts"

Outdoor temperature. Outdoor humidity. Drying demand. Cloud cover. Building size. Insulation. Occupancy. Non-server heat sources.

How efficient is the chip doing the work? How much work is actually being done to perform a single ChatGPT request?

There's thousands of variables behind this.

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How many extra atoms of water evaporated due to the extra heat put out by the 60hp motor that had to work slightly harder due to the cooling demand by a ChatGPT request?


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You should bow out of this one, the chatgpt conversation you'd need to get the math worked out would just be more cups of water gone forever

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bu bu bu the numbers could vary slightly in a form of cooling only used in parts of the country

Keep yourself safe you sophist r-slur.

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:marseyth#umbsup:


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I'm doing my part

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>trump and kamala making out, make trump really fat

https://media.tenor.com/1ME10YOKi7gAAAAx/when-you-see-your-friend-that-you-havent-seen-in3years.webp

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Good, now make Kamala's boobs 30% bigger

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worth it tbh

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I dont believe any of this shit about how much power ai uses. England cant handle half the country boiling water at the same time if this ai shit were true power grids would be collapsing

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Lmbo, the sever farms aren't in bong land.

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Energy needs are going to skyrocket so realistically, every anti-nuclear person needs to be hunted down and killed and the Global South needs to be yeeted back into the 1990s. Its the only way humanity can survive until whatever macguffin energy power becomes scalable. I think it was fusion or something currently

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Fusion is fricking only 10 years away, motherlover!

:#marseyskeletontalking:

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It's not. They "used" that much water, in a closed loop system will it can and will be used again and again and again

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it's not reasonable to compare to a third world country

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https://arxiv.org/pdf/2304.03271

The audacity of j*urnos to cite another (paywalled) article and not the actual study.

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Only one in every 100 journ*lists knows how to read.

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Journ*lists suddenly care about environmentalism when it comes to technology that will replace them. Few articles like this were published about the impact of tiktok or tomshardware

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I wonder how much water mindlessly scrolling through TikTok all day consumes?

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Alexa how much water is in about 1 billion human bodies?

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Too much to burn in a mere six years, Dave.

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MFW I spend a couple minutes in the primary server farm

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i dont doubt it, but ive never actually seen/heard/read about where the water is used in a datacenter. are they using evap coolers? is this factored into gas/coal/nuke power used for supplying electricity? like, literally all non pv/wind energy is just boiling water so i get that aspect of use, but are the dcs running evaps to cool their local hvac loops or something?

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lol they're just recycling Bitcoin FUD for AI now.

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This sounds like complete bullshit

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solution: kill someone every time you use generative ai to offset the amount of water :marseykoi: used

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OMG imagine using that disgusting language over RUST. As a proud rustacean, I'm going to inform you: that's blasphemy. You can do better. Grab cargo and start using a beautiful memory managed, statically typed, comfortable yet low level language with a spectacular packaging system. No more memory leaks. No more makefiles. End the weird bugs caused by unrequested type casting. Easily find libraries. AND ALL OF THAT IS BLAZING FAST (at C/cpp-level speeds - yay compiled langs and llvm c:). Why wouldn't you? The syntax is spectacular as well; extremely clean, much better than anything else out there. Those match statements are so extremely pleasant, and the looping conventions are orgasmic. And the compiler is the most useful and polite you'll come across; no more endlessly scrolling segmentation fault and template errors. It's amazing and I love it and you should switch now because it's far superior to literally everything else, all those gross languages you're used to using. Come to rust and you'll never look back, it's so versatile and cleeeeean. Graydon Hoare is literally a god. The rust book is my bible. this is my religion now. USE RUST

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