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Another Day Another Transgenocide as Elmo Muskass's DOGE :marseydoge: Eliminates 18F

https://18f.org/

This is an update to this thread https://rdrama.net/h/chudrama/post/338638/-


https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1j1zitb/18f_eliminated_by_doge/


https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43221549

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43231062

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People keep harping that it's this team that supposedly made QoL changes but speaking as a gov contractor I'm willing to bet it was contractors that did all the work and any government worker most likely hindered or were blockers to any major releases, requiring six months to a year to get the all clear.

Like I'm trying to do that now to get clearance for a new software dev pipeline that's faster and more secure.

Yet the people that need to sign off on it never show up to meetings or demos to look at it.

So then they need their own personal meeting for it but they keep kicking that can down the road.

It's unreal how unmotivated government is to incorporate improvements.

I would be more than happy if they were fired and contractors took over and we got paid more.

Edit: I love :capyheart: pins

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I'll throw out my random government website experience. I have to do some financial reporting thing yearly into a system that's sole purpose is to upload some document once a year. There's no instance you'd ever do it more than that. If you don't login for 3 months, it locks your account and you have to call some number to unlock it. No information is viewable on it. It's basically a screen that shows an upload button.

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Yup, navy and army has similar websites for bullshit like this.

Like navy digital marketplace, I dont need it but its there if I need to ever pull stuff, but It asks me to refresh my login every 30 days or else my account is deactivated. Not deleted, just deactivated and you'd need to bother someone to reactivate it. Its like the DoD thinks inactive user accounts can suddenly wake up on their own and take over the whole network by doing a login query.

Its so much extra busybody work that you know some government type implemented simply so he can tell their higher ups that they "made the website more security since they're been on board."

Like when I worked for the Army you had the one Garrison officer that would come on board make it so you cant log into the teams on your personal phone. Saying they made it now more secure, then the next one would come and rotate out and would say ok you can have teams on your personal phone to facilitate faster communication between dev teams. Then the next garrison officer comes and takes it away...

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Why do you say "NOT DELETED, JUST DEACTIVATED" like it makes more sense to delete it?

Do you think nothing malicious can be performed, or information pulled, from a low privileged account - that can upload files? Do you think it's a good idea to leave accounts indefinitely active? Why should your contractor account be always active and exempt from standard security policies?

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Not even close to what I said r-slur, most of those other accounts are separate from our cac/nmci accounts that are clearly active and should be based on that accounts activity.

In this field you wind up juggling different accounts to use at various times and it just adds unnecessary busywork for workers to track.

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That's exactly what you said.

It asks me to refresh my login every 30 days or else my account is deactivated. Not deleted, just deactivated and you'd need to bother someone to reactivate it.

"Why don't we, like, just have one account or sync all our accounts together? It's all just that simple, right? I just have so many accounts, like, no other field has all these accounts."

:#speechbubble:

https://media.tenor.com/mfmQXHA2nz8AAAAx/typing-slow.webp

I hate security jockeys setting up useless, user-unfriendly mazes more than you know, but I also hate uppity contractors like @rakrakaon whining that they have to make a phone call twice a year. They wouldn't let me in the military, so I don't know, maybe it's super easy and secure to sync all those account expirations together.

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I'm not a contractor and I'm not exaggerating when I say it is once a year (with another day wait for it to be fully activated).

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Lol, so once a year

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Yeah. It's a completely unnecessary, 15 minute phone call that requires two government employees (that I know of) to activate it.

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Sounds like you don't have enough accounts and access yet to find it all annoying

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If only.

:#wojaktired:

It's forever for all of us forever until Elon Musk buys Google and Microsoft and creates a standard U.S. citizen account for EVERYTHING. Everything. Totes secure. And 35% of the U.S. population works at call centers doing Tier 1 support (but it's all idle make-work, because AI does most of tier 0 and anything it can't do usually goes to Tier 2 in India.)

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I like how there's Login.gov but it doesn't actually support any of the things you'd want to use it for.

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Like navy digital marketplace

General Motors had the same thing.

I built an "App Store" for them which was really just a collection of links to websites like Google Chrome cause IT didn't want the employees clicking on r-slurred links.

I made $350 an hour doing that for around two years.

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Surely there's only so many links you can add. Isn't that like a week's worth of work?

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