>introduce a simple programming language to let people click buttons on web pages
>25 years later
>people are now bundling megabytes and megabytes of useless crap to code the same buttons, but in TypeScript React Svelte NodeJS LeftPad 2025 edition instead of lame old JS (which also now has access to your location, camera, microphone, RAM usage, etc for some reason)
>I know how to solve this!
>make a new programming language to click buttons, and this time put it in HTML itself, so it's syntax is even more godawful
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43292056
>also lets add logic to CSS, so that all three web languages can have their own r-slurred way of doing the same thing!
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43236126

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I love how every junior dev wants to chase the newest shiniest tech and will vomit out their eyeballs when presented with vanilla JS and/or jQuery.
It has given me incredible job security, doing minimal work, maintaining legacy products.
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that's because doing things in vanilla js is disgusting
the only real problem with the newer, more expressive/safer languages is the fact they need to be bolted onto top of a teetering stack of "muh compatibility" that keeps festering outdated leeches like u thriving
!codecels
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That's cool, I'd just find another way to leech if this path got closed off. These market imbalances never last forever. I'm always looking to the next thing. Leeching is in my nature.
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Don't call him an outdated leech please
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feeling a little useless there?
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You're being mean
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where??? here?? on rdrama???
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Yes, it is shocking, but I have seen it at times...
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is it that bad? ive used vanilla js and forms and stuff
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writing and maintaining complex webapp without basic type checking is stupendously gross....
js is fine otherwise and thats the tea, sis
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My boss is old as shit and b-word so hard when I used jQuery for something.
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As he should. Shameful behavior on your part.
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what do you use it for and thats the tea, sis
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Making a quick call to an API that returns a partial view (asp.net) and injecting the partial view totally into a table, and It was a shit load of table rows, and Wasnt even our product, was our internal admin page PERIODT
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is basically the same asuseRef
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web "developers" deserve everything that happens to them
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yeah I went down the JS/Typescript rabbithole and regret about 5yrs of my development life, and Back to simple af
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Whats wrong with typescript??? Isnt it basically like just syntax sugar on top of vanilla js??? and its EVERYTHING
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Nothing typescript is amazing, I mean like developing full apps in JS, and Or entire frontends abstracted from backends
Ive concluded simple JS with HTML is sufficient for about 80-90% of use cases for SaaS and like just because you may need complex interactivity situations doesnt mean JS has to consume the entire frontend, and Its okay to use react or Vue for isolated parts where its actually needed, and Its okay to mix frameworks, and like Just use what works, and And large long living JS projects aint it for most things
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gemini://rulmer.xyz/mycology/cultivation/intro.gmi
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we unfricked it from back in the IE days
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I will never forgive solderpunk for splintering the gopher community
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bro u think normal backend dev is any better?
i gotta transform object structures like half a dozen times to basically store a few strings. it's pretty mindnumbing
!codecels really are mostly a pack of r-slurs, and our economic system is wholly incapable of rectifying this
if u haven't watched the video:
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!codecels do you miss him yet
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actually what im bitching about is literally all the excess mathematically unproven work ur doing,
making it impossible to do conceptually simple tasks no matter how much personal refactoring i undertake...
!codecels
um and im not refactoring 1000s of LoC with 1000s more LoC in testing, like just to fix bug my dude
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literally,
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no u???
also like
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A ton of software is drudgery. Figuring out requirements and tradeoffs, dealing with things that can't reasonably be automated, naming shit. Renaming shit again. Reading logs. That said it's a blast when you can work fast and people know wtf they're doing
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did u watch the video?
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then ur opinion doesn't matter,
ur just another r-slur leech
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Stuffing more behaviors into the browser means less code shipped over the network. Who cares how ugly it is if it means fewer lines written
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CSS is like an STD you got from your hooker ex. It's a reminder of a better era
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I'm not that smart I just got her pregnant
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glorious day for wallchads
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skynet will be written in css.
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It will be a simple if statement. If all your data is lost, then you lose.
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Who cares? Just make ChatGPT write a streamlit front end
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The reasons js frameworks are popular is because vanilla js is disgusting.
If they had just done a good job 25 years ago I wouldn't have to keep learning new frameworks.
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Typescript isn't bundled with the JavaScript r-slur it's just for development
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Did you know they also use Javascript for entire backends
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I was trained by the best of the best, both in programming and high impact trolling. Why would I get into the same room as some limpwristed loser chud with an IQ of a chimpanzee? So I can humiliate them IRL too? Yesterday one of these sharty teens was trying to get me to click an IP grabber kek. This is the level of incompetency and r-sluration I'm dealing with every day. They should be THANKFUL that I have humored them ITT.
Snapshots:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43292056:
ghostarchive.org
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archive.ph (click to archive)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43236126:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
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