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Russia literally lost WWI so hard that the entire country collapsed what are you talking about lol


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they lost but bounced back, even after allies invaded them during the civil war

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Yeah they bounced back into a failed state run by a foreigner which was so disastrously incompetent that half their population died from famine ever year and they were unable to progress their industrial technology beyond 1940, managing to go a record 70 years before collapsing again into a failed state that’s unable to project power two feet beyond its border.

From 1916 - 1942 Russia was a dysfunctional backwater, from 1943 - 1954 they were a dysfunctional but almost developing backwater with a big army, and from 1955 - Present they’ve literally just been bluffing. Russia never recovered from getting BTFO in WWI.


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this is ultra cope, under the soviets russia went from an agrarian serf state to putting men on space, doing all this while being hated and targetted by the rest of the world.

There is no feat in human history that can compare to this

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By misallocating resources to the point people were starving to death and Chernobyl happened. They didn't have the resources to sanely accomplish what they did, it was all a giant bluff.

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By misallocating resources to the point people were starving to death

Holodomor was the last peacetime famine russia ever experienced and the tsardom had a holodomor scale famine every decade.

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HOLODOMOR WAS THE LAST PEACETIME FAMINE RUSSIA EVER EXPERIENCE

There was another major famine in 1947, war ended in 1945.

THE TSARDOM HAD A HOLODOMOR SCALE FAMINE EVERY DECADE.

The worst famine under tsarist rule was in 1891 and it killed 500,000 people. Holodomer killed >3.5 million people in Ukraine alone and a decade earlier a famine killed 5 million.


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There was another major famine in 1947, war ended in 1945.

1946 and due too having too take care of everything between the Elbe in germany and moscow that was totaled from the war. And they weren’t allowed too trade with the west. Unless you really want too claim this counts as peacetime and wasn’t due too the largest war in history.

The worst famine under tsarist rule was in 1891 and it killed 500,000 people

Which happened every decade with stunning regularity and the figures for Tsarist russia are barely able too be estimated due too having 1 population census and the government’s habit of labeling starvation deaths as deaths due too disease. Here’s an interesting read (don’t worry, the authors don’t like stalin so it’s not some uber biased crapheap): https://www.sociostudies.org/journal/articles/2914785/

The constant hunger was one of the main reasons the tsar was overthrown.

That, and let’s not forget that the kulak response too collectivization was too burn huge amounts of their crop and kill many of their animals, turning what would’ve been a smaller famine into the giant one we know today. Could Stalin have handled it a lot better? Yup. Was collectivization rushed too fast? Yes. Did Stalin expect half the harvest too be lit of fire too spite the government? Nope. Did that escalate a more common type of famine into a once in a century event? Yes.

and a decade earlier a famine killed 5 million.

Brutal Civil war, right after ww1. Not a peacetime famine.

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Two years after the war is definitely peacetime lmao. The 1947 famine had largely the same reasons as the 1932 famine, government incompetence.

HERE’S AN INTERESTING READ

You illiterate zigger it’s a study about 1892 specifically and it gives 530,000 deaths. Where does it say there were millions like happened in multiple Soviet famines?

”Why did the poor harvests of 1906 and 1911 not lead to mass deaths? After the catastrophe of 1892 an effective system of food security was created.”

Wow it’s like pre-WWI Russia was actually a vastly more competent government than the Soviet Union and was successfully modernizing, only to get their shit kicked in so hard they never recovered. Vatnigs btfo by their own sources, it’s like Tannenberg all over again.


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Yeah they did so well that the USSR had three major multi-year famines in as many decades and collapsed less than 70 years after it was formed. Nobody’s doubting your average Ruski’s ability to copy US technology, as long as that technology is exclusively weaponry or spaceshit and not something that would result in them being a stable and functional country.

The USSR was a meme state that managed to somehow convince everyone that they were a superpower, and modern Russia is a far less relevant power, both militarily and economically (5th largest economy in 1914 and growing fast), than they were before WWI. Imagine sucking off a country whose entire upward trajectory was derailed and is now doomed to eternal stagnation and decline by Austria-Hungary of all countries lmfao.


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yes USSR was such a meme state, thats why NATO was terrified of them. keep coping, the time of the US empire is coming to an end, and unlike Russia it will not bounce back

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Yeah that puts Russia alongside such esteemed company as North Korea and Libya, good job.

The USSR was described as a superpower because they acted as a superpower was expected to act and the world reacted to them as a superpower, but they didn’t have anything to back it up beyond nukes. They memed their way into major power status and once everyone realized it in the ‘80s (after they got BTFO in yet another war) the whole thing collapsed.

Cope and seethe. Dilate, even. It’s been over for vatnigs since 1914 and all of Russia’s greatest achievements since then have been accidentally killing its own people over and over and over again.


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all 3 of those countries are awesome, or at least libya was before you removed gaddafi

they didn’t have anything to back it up beyond nukes

so the only thing that matters?

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Sure, if you agree that at its peak the USSR was as much of a superpower as present-day bongland and Pakistan.


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This comment is completely :marseybrainlet: tier.

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TBH Alexander's conquests are up there for great historical achievements.

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I would still rate Soviets above because Russia was absolutely shambles before they took over, meanwhile Alexander had his army built for him. But I dont want to remove from Alexander's acomplishments of course

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Bad bait

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