https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-acknowledges-retreat-bakhmut-ukrainian-counteroffensive-1.6841643
Moscow acknowledged on Friday that its forces had fallen back north of Ukraine's battlefield city of Bakhmut after a new Ukrainian offensive, in a retreat that the head of Russia's Wagner private army called a rout.
Oh no no no Russia bros... we were just two weeks away from capturing Bahkmut
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Bro you must be from the future because wagner not only didnt lose territory today but they also took territory, the only territory loss was a bit in the flanks outside of bakhmut but that was mobilized conscripts
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let me guess, you also believed when he said wagner was gonna retreat from bakhmut on the 10th?
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I'm not even following this noise and I know that name is associated with fake news
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Hes not threatening to possibly do anything though, he is describing what has already happened.
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there was no retreat inside of bakhmut, thats a fact
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Both sides involved sure seem to think so
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i beg you to download telegram instead of just reading headlines
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they arent retreating bro. Slava Z Patriot Warlord News on telegram says its just a brilliant ruse
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do you know where your news get their sources? Just got to the primary source
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Bro you must be from the future because Paulus' forces not only didn't lose territory today but they also took territory, the only territory loss was a bit in the flanks outside Stalingrad, but that was Romanian and Italian forces
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azovcels will never take bakhmut
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Very on-brand for the Western NEET Vatnik to not know enough history to not get my Operation Uranus joke
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I know what it is, but this is nothing like stalingrad at all
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There are 3 defensive lines in north-dontesk area, the first is the lysychansk-kreminna line, the second is bakhmut-soledar and the third is the slavyansk-kramatorsk.
The first line (already fell) existed to give time for ukraine troops to regroup and to prepare defenses in the second line, this objective was achieved by the ukranians. The second line (bakhmut) is where they make their stand, this line was prepared for a long time for that purpose and losing it is a BIG loss for ukraine, the third line is the weakest of the 3 as it was prepared less since it is a last resort.
If Russia defeats ukrainian army in bakhmut then ukraine will be at a big shortage of men to hold the already weaker slavyansk line, its open ground for Russia basically. They could of withdrawn and saved their men to hold this with better chances but ukraine decided to lose everything here, there is around ~30k men (assuming the brigades are at half strenght) thats not easy to replace.
If bakhmut wasnt important neither Russia or ukraine would waste thousands of men taking it, so dont delude yourself here.
the advantage of germany in Stalingrad was always their airforce, and nothing has been decided yet, not to mention germany barely took any casualties at the start of the battle and only started dying in mass after they were bogged down and later surrounded.
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