@Szia_uram your friend is full of shit
Oh just noticed he told gekills 
B-word you lived longer in Germany that I lived on this earth and you still can't speak Nazi language ? It's “getötet”
Klitchko says Ukrainian are free people and not mobilised
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He said in the majority of the cases, judging by the support that is probably true, have you checked the support for war among the 18-30 age group of Ukrainian men? It's probably the highest out of all age and gender subgroups.
Is a country inherently not free, if it has mobilization in case of an enemy invasion?
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Ukraine has literally mobilisation
https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/02/26/ukraine-finds-stepping-up-mobilisation-is-not-so-easy
Military recruiters are accused of rough tactics as they try to boost the head count
This was in February
https://visitukraine.today/blog/2506/will-everyone-go-to-war-how-will-the-volume-of-mobilization-in-ukraine-change-in-the-near-future
If you want to defend khohols at lest do it objectively. Everyone who wanted to join army already did it. Now purely mobilised are fighting and your friend is straight lying to the world after he was telling to the world he will give his life for Ukraine holding an AK
https://m.novinite.com/articles/213243/Vitali+Klitschko:+I+will+Fight+on+the+Front+Lines+against+Russia
And now he is telling oh dying is easy so he won't die, so those Ukrainian men that are getting mobilised outside their will without giving promises to fight in frontline are picking easy way with their free will as klitschko suggest ?
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None of what you posted contradicts my points even slightly
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This is obviously false, you don't even need to know sociology and statistic to know this.
Zelenskyy biggest supporter are women because they don't risk anything and many were able to leave Ukraine thanks to him so they support this war the most.
Klitchko joined army and left it and then went outside Ukraine and started talking about freedom where no Ukrainian man is allowed to do what he did and legally even he ain't allowed to do this.
My point was he is lying and you started telling no he is correct using foid reasoning. If you have Ukrainian men freedom they would just b-word like Armenian men instead of fighting
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/403133/ukrainians-support-fighting-until-victory.aspx
https://kiis.com.ua?id=1242&page=1
You are so boring to argue with, at least do a 30 second google search.
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OCTOBER 18, 2022
Ain't that just after the epic Kharkiv moment that gave a very strong moral boost to Ukraine and made them think they can actually win and not just a lucky moment also wasn't that event your counter argument why spring counteroffensive won't fail and I told you that they won't be lucky again ?
Like I understand you didn't studied sociology but how stupid can you be to give a source from one year ago or something from Ukraine who now has a lot of limits in free speech, they even forbidden doing demographic researches on Ukrainian and told only after the war ?
If you want to point a sociological point you can't use in a dynamic event shit from a year ago, you'll be worse than western media since even they now understand 80+% support for Ukraine that existed for Ukraine in march 2022 don't exist today and you given me a statistic from a fricking peak of khohol spirit
Instead of trying to use google go to college to learn something
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I included the other poll, because it was conducted more recently. I included the first poll, because it showed men are more likely to support it. For some reason rdrama shortened the url, it's the first link here: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/beyond-the-counteroffensive-84-of-ukrainians-are-ready-for-a-long-war
Unsurprisingly, it increased since then.
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Your link don't talk about men rushing to join front.
They publish what they get paid for it's official university that is under Zelenskyy.
Here they point why they created that poll and what's its goal would be.
And here the irony:
https://mezha.media/en/2023/04/07/as-of-january-1-2023-the-population-of-ukraine-was-28-34-million
Let's assume Kiev ukraine has now 30 millions people and before the war it was 44 million so for more than 20% Ukrainian, Ukraine is no more their home country.
if what klitschko told was real there wouldn't been mobilisation wave 20+ since there would been a huge line of men who want a easy way instead of hard like klitschko did.
And again your poll is pre epic spring counteroffensive when they still believed they are going to win just wait a week and Ukraine going to launch their greatest counteroffensive.
In today world US wants to freeze this conflict like Korean War, there is no more talk about Ukraine winning
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So polls are not real if they contradict your worldviews, anything specific issues with the methodology or...?
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