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Following Russia's invasion, I got caught up in the same waves of emotion that washed over most western publics, and I say that with no regret. After relentlessly battling the prevailing cultural winds these past few years, I was relieved to feel a sense of solidarity for once. Most of us were revulsed by the gratuitous aggression, allied with an underdog whose bite proved surprisingly fierce, thrilled by a former comedian's unexpected rise to his nation's occasion and consumed by a weirdly addictive loathing for Vladimir Putin. Kyiv's repelling Russia's clumsy invasion of the capital was exhilarating. Like so many of you, in those early months I read about Ukraine every day.

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I don't any more. I bet most of you don't either. Why, as grotesque as 7 October was, I sensed in our collective pivot to the Middle East this autumn an odd undercurrent of gladness that now we could plunge up to the neck into a different story.

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I'm no foreign policy wonk but I do know something about stories, and observers of international news constitute an audience, a readership. From the off, this story had a spectacular opening chapter, a classic hero – personified by Volodymyr Zelensky, but more crucially the Ukrainian people – and as wicked a villain as Shakespeare could have contrived. To begin with, too, our tale was punctuated by riveting dramatic events: the outrageous slaughter of civilians in Bucha; the triumphant sinking in the Black Sea of Russia's grand warship the Moskva; the gratifying liberation of Kharkiv, as the once-intimidating Russian army beat a humiliating retreat; the sly and, for Putin, infuriating bombing of his fancy bridge to Crimea.

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For us observers, this is supposed to be a David and Goliath story. But David and Goliath is a crap story if the giant wins. The big bloke pummels the little bloke? Predictable, a bit disheartening and not really a story at all, just the way the world works. Besides, a western audience wants to see the good guy win, both to mete out justice and to enjoy victory by proxy. Sophisticated literature often resolves with more complexity – with bitterness, irony or tragedy – but that's one reason literary fiction is less popular than the commercial kind. Most people prefer happy endings. Any bestselling thriller writer would subject the Ukrainians to plenty of nail-biting adversity, but Zelensky would finally triumph, reclaiming all his nation's occupied territory, including Crimea.

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They're running out of young men, not because the young men won't serve but because they're dead. Ukrainian women are being sent to the front lines.

Shut it down a woman might die

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Hundreds of thousands of men dying?

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Sitting back and giving Ukrainians just enough weaponry to keep fighting to the last man and woman, only for the country to finally end up where we always knew it would, is not just immoral. It's murder.

Your leaders knew from the start

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There's no such thing as free land, and reminding Russia :marseybackstabglowie: of this will protect future :marseyremember: generations of Ukrainians :marseywholesome:

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future :marseyremember: generations of Ukrainians

Novorossiyans

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Novorossiyans

Mahknochivans

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>Anarchist who got his bussy blown out by the power of an actual state

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>an actual state

:#marseysurejan:

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I don't usually simp for commies but its impressive how much he and Trotsky got done to win the Russian Civil War. They had industrial centers true but very little of an experienced military command, broken government structure, were atheists in a very religious country if I had to bet on who'd win at the start I'd pick the Whites. Same for Mao. He built an army out of the most shitpoor mountains in China proper with like 5% of the nat population and somehow overwhelmed 95% of the country with access to western aid.

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Cringe LARP.

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The only ideological defense of Novo is regional determinism (secondarily, frick Nazis). Mahknochiva has both and more cultural precedent. If you back Novo and not Mahknochiva, you're lying about something.

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Novorossiya actually exists, you're larping about a meme ideology that didn't even really exist during its brief alleged existence.

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>meme ideology that isn't real

>war is to liberate said ideologically leaning, regionally concentrated minority in eastern Ukraine

It's ALL Kievan Rus settlements r-slur, the difference IS Mahknochiva and leftist thought.

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war is to liberate said ideologically leaning, regionally concentrated minority in eastern Ukraine

Can you English please? I've seen more coherent salv posts.

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Greentext inflection leaves the primary subject implied, it's a pain in the butt to write and to read.

The ideological thrust of intervening in Crimea and the rest of Mahknochiva is to protect the Russian-speaking ideological minority of in what is currently known as eastern Ukraine, from ideologically motivated persecution from the western-run Ukrainian central government.

Russia believes the ideology is real. Why do you disagree with Russia?

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