Putin's Interview With Tucker Carlson Was Filled With Lies, Here Are Some Egregious Examples 🧵 pic.twitter.com/SMqus7RK6n
— Mikhail Khodorkovsky (@khodorkovsky_en) February 9, 2024
❌ He claimed Russia had become Europe's largest economy
✔️ Russia ranks 32nd in Europe for GDP (PPP) per capita.
❌ Putin once again trotted out the old lie about US promises NATO would not expand east
✔️ There was never such an agreement – even Gorbachev said so – and in any case, countries join NATO of their own free will. If Putin didn't want NATO to grow, he shouldn't declare war on his neighbors
https://brookings.edu/articles/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no
❌ Putin denied ever having said the US was preparing to attack Russia
✔️ In fact, he did say that, three days before invading Ukraine, which he said would be the “advanced foothold” for the so-called NATO assault
https://tass.ru/politika/13792007
❌ He said the Maidan protests turned violent, even though Yanukovych refused to use any force against them
✔️ Yanukovych's Berkut riot police brutally dispersed protesters, and its snipers shot dead 76 people in three days in February 2014
https://bbc.com/news/world-europe-26868119
❌ He said Kyiv started the conflict in Donbas by using its air force against civilians
✔️ The conflict began on 12 April 2014 when FSB officer Igor Girkin led ‘separatists' to seize the town of Sloviansk. Ukraine first used its aviation in response, on 26 May, in the battle for Donetsk Airport
❌ During his rambling exercise in alternative history at the beginning of the interview, Putin said Ukraine was an artificial entity created at the initiative of Joseph Stalin
✔️ Ukraine was added to the Soviet Union in 1922, under Lenin. But the Ukrainian People's Republic was declared in 1917 – before the Bolshevik takeover – and recognized by Russia's provisional government
https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Journals/UkrQ/12/4/Wilson_and_Ukrainian_Republic*.html
❌ He said Poland had ‘forced' Hitler to declare war in 1939 by being ‘uncooperative' with his plans
✔️ Hitler's plans included the extermination of Poland's Slavs and Jews, and its repopulation with Germans. The so-called Polish provocation used as a pretext for the invasion was a German false flag
https://nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/invasion-poland-september-1939
❌ Speaking of Zelenskyy, Putin said he had once asked the Ukrainian president why he, as the son of a WW2 veteran, would ‘collaborate with neo-Nazis'
✔️ Zelenskyy's father was born in 1947, after the WW2 ended
❌ Putin said NATO has ‘options' to recognize Russian annexation of parts of Ukraine
✔️ It does not. The UN has declared the annexations illegal under international law, and even if it wanted to, NATO has no more right to contest that ruling than Russia does
https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/3989859?ln=en
❌ Putin claimed that Ukrainians ‘still consider themselves Russians'
✔️ Putin fundamentally misunderstood Ukrainian national identity and falsely believed Ukrainians saw themselves as Russians, a key mistake that led to the disastrous invasion. A 2022 poll revealed 93% favor independence, just 3% support merging with Russia.
https://kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=reports&id=1102&page=10
❌ Putin said Zelenskyy had banned peace talks with Russia
✔️ Zelenskyy banned negotiations with Putin specifically, and said Ukraine was ‘ready for dialog with Russia, but with a different president'
❌ He said WSJ reporter Evan Gershkovich was arrested for gathering secret information about the Russian military on behalf of US intelligence services
✔️ Before his arrest, Gershkovich had been working as a journ*list in Russia since 2017. He is being held unlawfully in order to strong-arm the US into agreeing to some kind of concessions
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You really think someone would do that? Just go on Tucker's show and tell lies?
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I wish he would've dominated and clowned on Tucker more
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sure I'm gonna trust "fact checkers" like it's 1999
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Poor Putin. He's been victimized in the same way.
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Later he said it's actually the wests fault for not accepting poor innocent russia:(
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him saying poland forced germany to invade is the most hilarious thing ever. it's such a blatant lie. it's so incredibly easy to disprove.
he's really defending nazis, while saying ukraine is a nazi country and that's why they must be stopped, because HIS OWN COUNTRY ALLIED WITH THEM TO TAKE POLAND.
hitler's plans were give us your country . those fricking uncooperative poles!
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But what if Germany would have had more fun with Poland? The happiness in the world would have increased, making it the right thing to do
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germany probably did have a lot of fun for a few years but then so much negative-fun for the next few that they end up with no fun had. they end up owing fun. in fun debt.
i read a couple books on the immediate post-war time and holy shit the poles went hard on the payback. just fricking brutal.
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God I love how butthurt the interview made ppl
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NATOids are absolutely melting down. It's beautiful.
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literally what chuds think
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I don't think the regular chuds believe this, Only the real giga-cucked chuds and literal vatniks. It seems to me that almost everyone have been laughing at Putin.
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This isn't what largest economy means. Per Capita means it's adjusted by population, looking at only GDP they rank 2nd in a near tie with Germany.
@GlowieCrackDealer hate "debunkings" that are really just twisting facts too suit whatever narrative. Like this one:
The "debunk" doesn't actually disprove what Putin said.
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That's true, comparing values by GDP/capita or GDP PPP is stupid when just trying to flex about the strength of an economy, but even if you look at the nominal GDP figures, Russia is 8th in the world, behind Germany, France and the UK, roughly on the same level as Italy or Canada.
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I had someone unironically use something similar for per capita with china to make the argument that they're the most energy efficient country in the world despite dumping out more pollution than everybody combined.
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Well for efficiency the per capita number is the relevant figure.
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Except it glosses over that not everyone benefits from the output of pollution to power output. That ratio is a much larger divide in China than say the US. Meaning despite US utilizing its power and CO2 output more people are benefitting from it than say China and its people.
That and on top of that the UN doesn't fine them because the UN has designated them as a "developing country"
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yeah that peace talks one is r-slurred.
he didn't ban peace talks! he just banned peace talks with the leader of russia!
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How dare you agree with nazism and putin and trump and i assume dryer sheets
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I mean, most of these was already revealed by him before. This is really nothing new. Those who still choose to believe whatever bullshit spouted by this guy are really hopeless.
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I wish the media had gotten across better in his early career that he really believes all the bullshit about Ukraine being imaginary. It was several years before I realized he was actually serious about that.
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Palestine is more real than Ukraine
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This checks out. Were they really nazi's after the fall of the third reich?
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The current Russian regime's orgin story is from WWII so they lean heavily into beating "nazis".
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They literally think WWII (or the Great Patriotic War) started in 1941 when the Nazis invaded them.
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It did, there's nothing to disprove the narrative.
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This is why everyone is frothing over this interview.
Rightoid slavs are so fricking stupid they would make this argument unorinically.
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BIPOC I'm not reading all that shit. You don't even counter anything he says.
Putin really is too smart for Americans. !commies
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americans who give a shit about russia and/or ukraine are the lowest form of brain dead r-slurs
in 10 years we will look back on ukraine war the same way we look back on the iraq or afghanistan wars
@Bookers stand with israel
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opinion discarded for living in an irrelevant country
@Bookers stand with israel
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top jej
go frick a reindeer, you inbred r-slur
@Bookers stand with israel
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cope and sneed, snow mexican
@Bookers stand with israel
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!jannies fennomisia
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that is actual racism, you could ping jannies to report it. There is no irony, he is not even obfuscating it. LOVE FOR FINLAND FROM RUSSIA
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Both of these wars are considered massively important for the shaping of the world we live in
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oh okay, so akshually george bush was right and the iraq war was a good thing now
got it
@Bookers stand with israel
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Yeah that's clearly what I said
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How is it not what you implied?
@Bookers stand with israel
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Important == good
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@pizzashill missia
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@Bookers just dont understand it
these are the same people who were vehemently anti george bush, called him a war criminal for our wars in the middle east
now they sit here and cheer it on when it happens in ukraine.
being anti war should be the leftist position
so what the frick is going on here? why is @Bookers the chud when @Bookers say this shit
@Bookers stand with israel
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I am Russia
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❌ Putin said Zelenskyy had banned peace talks with Russia
✔️ Zelenskyy banned negotiations with Putin specifically, and said Ukraine was ‘ready for dialog with Russia, but with a different president'
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Where is our resident Russian simp to tell us how this is all wrong and its only 2 more days before Ukraine falls
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@pizzashill we need u bb
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This exists for a reason
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Factcheck: WARNING! THIS CLAIM HAS BEEN CLASSIFIED AS DANGEROUS. PLEASE REMAIN STILL, AN AGENT WILL COME TO MEET YOU SHORTLY.
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Yes you do, you fricking imbecile. If you are rejerking you have to put /rj in front of it and if you are not rejerking you put /uj in front of it, although some people don't use /uj but yes you need to put /rj on comments that are rejerking. There are people who come here to un ironically say that shit so that's what /rj is for.
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so it's exactly like the "trump lied 23000 times here is a list of all of them" and it's all just taking things out of context or intentionaly failing to understand what was said? cool, cool.
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