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Similar negotiations happened during the cold war (between the West and Russia/China) and this likely isn't the first time a backroom deal has been made in this war.

Washington allegedly then contacted Kyiv and asked them not to proceed with the plans.

Neither side wants the proxy war to escalate. If Russia is unable to save face, then it's harder for a peaceful conclusion to be met. Stabilization is probably in everyone's best interest now.

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Neither side wants the proxy war to escalate.

lol

If Russia didn't want to escalate it the war would have ended two years ago. Russia chooses to escalate at every opportunity, US backs off because sleepy is a fricking kitty.

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To be clear, I'm talking about expanding the conflict beyond Ukraine.

The US, EU and UK all prefer that they can simply test their weapons and wave some little flags while the war stays over there somewhere, and Russia obviously wants to keep the shooting war out of Russia as much as possible.

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Yes the US and EU has shown a lot of restraint, it could be way worse for Russia, but it's already sufficiently a trainwreck they are happy keeping it a stalemate and waiting it out it seems

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Similar negotiations happened during the cold war

Yeah. The Cold War. When there was no active conflict.

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Except for Angola, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Korea, you're completely right.

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"between the West and Russia/China"

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Yes

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Begged

Russian now beg yanks, lol, what a frick up

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Imagine the moment Daddy USA will give Ukraine green light to attack Russia :marseyrussianmuttgenocide:

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Lol, Biden just stared into space , mouth agap

And they still reamed 4'11 putin, lol

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:marseybeanquestion: Biden is an old school cold warrior. The only thing he loves better than worthers originals toffee candies is dead Ruskies.

The whole Ramstein group was organized and convened by the Biden admin.

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It's been speculated it's mostly Jake Sullivan who is anti using missiles in Russia and cucking Ukraine from destroying their planes. Biden is mostly just an autopilot last few yrs or possibly just too much of a political diplomat who wants no problems

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:#marseysal:

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I will always hold hope for dramatic happenings :marseypraying:

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hohol propaganda

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There was Russian sources, they like to admit these things publicly often because they have a humiliation fetish and it fits their victim complex of losing to murica instead of Ukrainian drones

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all of the sources are russian, they like the idea of being humiliated (sexually) by Uncle Sam

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:marseydisagree: @Wojak this is false :marseypinocchio2: information.

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All I have ever wanted was to love women, but their behavior has only earned my hatred. I want to have s*x with them, and make them feel good, but they would be disgusted at the prospect. They have no sexual attraction towards me. It is such an injustice, and I vehemently questioned why things had to be this way. Why do women behave like vicious, stupid, cruel animals who take delight in my suffering and starvation? Why do they have a perverted sexual attraction for the most brutish of men instead of gentlemen of intelligence?

Snapshots:

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/08/5/7469078/:

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