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Vladimir Putin Would 'Lose A War Against Nato In Three Days' :marseyflagnato::vs::putinapproved:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/vladimir-putin-would-lose-a-war-against-nato-in-three-days_uk_66eac1d3e4b051614c508403

Vladimir Putin would lose a war against Nato in "three days", according to human rights activist and former financier for Russia, Bill Browder.

Fears the West could be pulled into direct conflict with Moscow have soared recently as Ukraine's allies consider allowing Kyiv to fire their long-range missiles into Russia.

There are also concerns that the Russian president could go nuclear if he thinks the West cross his own red lines.

But, Browder – who was the largest foreign investor in Russia until 2005, when he was declared a threat to national security and denied entry into the country – thinks worries over escalation are overstated.

"Putin thought he could win a war with Ukraine in three days, and it's now been two and a half years," Browder told Times Radio on Tuesday.

"If he were to initiate a war against Nato, he would lose that war in three days – and he's not going to do that."

Nato is a defensive military alliance and keen not to be pulled into a war against Russia – but it is seen as one of the world's most powerful organisations, with more than 3.39 million active military personnel.

For comparison, Russia has fewer than 1.5m troops in its army.

Browder continued: "Anyone who understands military strategy and military outcomes knows he is not going to do that.

"We effectively have two different types of people involved in the decision.

"You have the military men, who are all saying, 'This is nonsense, we should give Ukraine what they need.'

"And you have the non-military men, the policy men, who are analysts not soldiers, who are all just hiding under their desks and not wanting to be the person to take any kind of risk which would push Ukraine's interests forward."

Browder added that it was an "understatement" to say he was "frustrated" by the delays in allowing Ukraine to use the West's long-range missiles – made by the UK and France – called Storm Shadows.

While Ukraine does have access to such weapons right now, it is only permitted to use them for defensive purposes.

And, even if the UK and France give Ukraine permission to use the missiles for offensives, Kyiv would still need the go-ahead from the US to operate them fully because the weapons use American targeting systems.

Touching on the Kremlin's ongoing threats to go "nuclear" if the West help Ukraine too directly, Browder said: "Putin has already done everything we are afraid of him doing.

"The only thing he could do more is to initiate a nuclear attack, that's the big sort of boogie man.

"But if he does that, he ends up losing his alliance with China, losing his alliance with India, and there will certainly be a devastating response from Nato if he were to do that."

China's president Xi Jinping and India's PM Narendra Modi have both warned Putin against nuclear weapons in over the last few years.

Browder claimed: "From any sort of wargaming perspective, there's not that much of a downside whereas there is a big upside, which is Ukraine may be able to get the upper hand."

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Its true and I totally agree but

according to human rights activist and former financier for Russia, Bill Browder.

Im not sure he is a credible source on the relative militaries.

For air superiority F35 vs the Su57 & J20 its just not fair, F35 can fire on both 80 miles before they can even see it and even that range is a limitation of the current gen AAM. Naval its even worse, coal powered aircraft carrier that doesn't work vs 10 the US have in operation at any time.

This is the natural consequence of Russia & China using what their military can do for propaganda while the US is stupidly modest and doesn't show off capabilities of many of the toys. Military industrial complex likes that arrangement because it allows congress to justify spending silly money, the US isn't equivalent to Russia or China it is dominant to a degree it really becomes bullying not war.

I do hope Putin tries something. Having a great reset where its made clear how absurdly powerful the US is would fix tinpot dictators trying to start shit and we could start spending less. Also force the US to finally admit they have no problem intercepting & destroying ballistic missiles but didn't want to upset the great balance that really hasn't existed since the early 80's.

We shouldn't execute Putin or Xi. They should be locked in clear plastic boxes and toured around the world like zoo animals so people can throw shit at them. They will be made to live, no easy way out like suicide or execution, so they know how utterly they have failed. Their families will be executed in front of them as a warning to the rest of the world. Frick with the rules based international order and your entire lineage becomes non-human.

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>Frick with the rules based international order and your entire lineage becomes non-human.

Not enough

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_familial_exterminations

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If Russia did that the US would just absolutely long-peepee them into oblivion conventionally

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