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I hate it when people peddle the "Dark Forest" idea, since it always comes down to justifying one's own barbarity..

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The book titled The Dark Forest actually explores this pretty well, and even ends on a slightly hopeful note for this topic.

it's “if you shoot I'll kill us both” instead of “I'll shoot you first” but that's relatively positive

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Fans are really the worst proselytizers sometimes.

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scifi authors are infamous for their barbarity

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