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I dont think I know any that are ohtright bad people, though I havent met many since highschool.
Its just a curious naivety to how humans function and what motivates them and leads to which outcomes. Fundamentally they dont understand that good people can do bad things, and that good intentions can lead to bad outcomes and that becoming a monster is a slow decline not something you're born as.
For the ones I knew, they were big into the alternative scene, and spent time with many people on the margins of society. And I think meeting junkies/"vagabonds" that are still normal and nice is what soured them on the society that told them (as kids) that these people are losers and bad. What they fail to realise is that not only can both things be true - those guys being nice and society shunning them for a reason (being unreliable or stealing, mostly) - but also that they still met only a specific kind of person, those alsl involved in the alternative scene. The true lumpenprole doesnt go to an alternative youth center for a local punk rock show. Theyre under the bridge shooting up heroin.
Also in my experience they were all guys and didnt realise that the old guys at those shows were there to cruise for some underage gussy.
Interesting perspective. Those people sounds like what I would imagine for a teen's fall into socialism in the 70s. Didn't they they are still a thing.
The ones I met are more college-lib types. Like you said, they all got stars in their eyes, and are deeply unsatisfied with how reality is playing out.
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I dont think I know any that are ohtright bad people, though I havent met many since highschool.
Its just a curious naivety to how humans function and what motivates them and leads to which outcomes. Fundamentally they dont understand that good people can do bad things, and that good intentions can lead to bad outcomes and that becoming a monster is a slow decline not something you're born as.
For the ones I knew, they were big into the alternative scene, and spent time with many people on the margins of society. And I think meeting junkies/"vagabonds" that are still normal and nice is what soured them on the society that told them (as kids) that these people are losers and bad. What they fail to realise is that not only can both things be true - those guys being nice and society shunning them for a reason (being unreliable or stealing, mostly) - but also that they still met only a specific kind of person, those alsl involved in the alternative scene. The true lumpenprole doesnt go to an alternative youth center for a local punk rock show. Theyre under the bridge shooting up heroin.
Also in my experience they were all guys and didnt realise that the old guys at those shows were there to cruise for some underage gussy.
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Interesting perspective. Those people sounds like what I would imagine for a teen's fall into socialism in the 70s. Didn't they they are still a thing.
The ones I met are more college-lib types. Like you said, they all got stars in their eyes, and are deeply unsatisfied with how reality is playing out.
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