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Warhammer 40,000 has slightly more women in it now and the neckbeards aren't happy :marseykhorne:

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Since Warhammer 40,000's 10th edition was released last year, each of the wargame's factions has been getting the traditional rules refresh in the form of a new Codex book. The latest deals with the Adeptus Custodes, genetically engineered bodyguards of the Emperor so gigantic they make space marines look weedy. (They also happen to be Henry Cavill's army of choice). There are 10,000 of them and in the past they've only ever been depicted as men. In this latest iteration, shock horror, at least two of the Custodes are women.

Most players seem to have responded to this by shrugging and getting back to arguing about the new rules, but there's always a vocal minority who go on a tear. The Mail Online ran a typically subtle and understated headline that declared "It's Wokehammer!" and the meme community Grimdank has declared posts about "Femstodes" will only be allowed for one week before they join "Female Space Marine posts" as a banned topic. Games Workshop's official response is a tweet that says, "In regards to female Custodians, there have always been female Custodians, since the first of the Ten Thousand were created."

Is this a retcon? Yep, and it won't be the last. Warhammer 40,000 has had fluid "lore" right from the start. The original Custodian Guards were depicted as shirtless hunks who never leave Earth---a long way from the heavily armored galaxy-spanning golden gods they became---to say nothing of tweaks to the 40K canon like ditching half-eldar space marines and rewriting the Horus Heresy from a short story a handful of pages long into a series of 60+ novels.

The Adeptus Custodes aren't 40K's only genetically engineered supersoldiers, of course. The setting's flagship faction are the space marines, who are created differently---where Custodes are enhanced via a unique process begun when they're infants, space marines begin being grafted with a "gene-seed" when they're on the verge of puberty. And while the explanation that space marine gene-seeds are "keyed to male hormones and tissue types" goes back a way, it's not the real reason Games Workshop made a whole army of dudes who are men.

As GW's former head of IP Alan Merrett once explained on Facebook, "The reason there aren't female Space Marines has nothing to do with lore, or background or character of Marines. It's to do with [the] simple logistics of making miniatures and selling miniatures." In the 1980s GW sold miniatures in sets called blister packs, and as Merrett explained "the intention was that upwards of 25% of all models would be female." That didn't last because "retailers kept complaining to us that customers weren't buying the female models and could we not include any in their restocks." By the time Warhammer 40,000 was designed, GW made sure its poster boys were, well, boys to ensure they'd sell. As Merrett put it, "All the background fluff about why there are only male Marines is there to justify a commercial logistics issue."

And the same was true of the Adeptus Custodes, until it wasn't. Though the customers at the average Warhammer shop are mostly men, these days there are usually one or two women as well. And the men are a lot less likely to throw a hissy-fit about having women in their armies than g*mers in the 1980s, despite what Reddit and Twitter might suggest. All of 40K's lore and storytelling exists to provide context for selling toy soldiers to people, and as the customer base changes so too will that lore.

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I always feel like a lot of these companies and studios are run by people who hold contempt for their manchild audience and can't resist baiting them :marseyplaying:

Millennial nerds are never happy and whine about everything regardless. They get spoiled with all the remakes and releases, and complain about every single one.

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They get spoiled with all the remakes and releases, and complain about every single one.

Disregarding that remakes/masters are lazy cash grabs, they are also 99% of the time total dog shit, so why should people not complain? Sadly they still get picked up by paypiggies so it always profits the companies pooping them out.

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They get spoiled with all the remakes and releases, and complain about every single one.

It's true, Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life was fricking horrendous and I will tell anyone and everyone how terrible it was and why.

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Was it bad because it was it didn't deviate in quality :marseygraze: from the source :marseymissing2: material? :marseysmug2:

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:marseyrage: don't you dare talk shit on Rory and Lorelai!

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I will tell anyone and everyone :marseynorm: how terrible :marseyyinzer: it was and why

Correct me then.

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This is Conquest's third law.

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Uh, based?

:#marseynerd2genocide:

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This is the most ive heard about warhammer since one of my guy friends tried to get me into a warhammer mmo years back so it's possibly good for business

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I've been thinking about trying it for some time but now I will definitely never touch it.

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You're a fricking :marseytom: cute twink :marseypizzashillblacked: r-slur :marseyloaf:

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I am one of the smarter users actually

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Yes and?

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While I think some of them individually probably hold contempt for their audience I think it's more like the loudest complainers are pretty much always the whales and legacy fans who will buy the current year editions regardless. These companies hedge that they will gain more new customers over losing some old ones are end of the day.

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Proplem between these relationships is fact that either there is no competition for these corporations or demand just massively outstrips supply. And these companies suck at their job.

But becouse there is no alternatives their customer base will end up in love/hate relationship. This in turn makes company hate their customers even more. And eventually they end up doing something just out of spite.

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I want to take a moment to point out that this entire debacle stems from ADB, a dude who writes a gratuitous scene of a woman getting mutilated for absolutely no reason in every book he writes, and literally every woman he has ever written that has survived to the end of the book is written with so much absurd torture porn that it's defacto non-canon.

Dude literally just wants to write more about femoids getting sliced in half by demons in explicit detail and is tired of having to shoehorn a side hole into the story to guro.

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:#marseykneel:

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where can I read this art?

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What does ADB stand for?

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Aaron dembski bowden. I did like some of his sloppy horus heresy books, more than most of dan “hack” abnetts books

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Thanks, you post about it with great knowledge, so I find it hard to follow sometimes because I don't know what you're referring to.

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Why would he write for GW then? Why not write foid coomer books. Judging /r/fantasyromance

They would love that stuff

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>The patient's liver has slightly more cancer cells in it now and the he isn't happy.

:#marseysipping:

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Gatekeeping your hobbies. They don't want their own, they want yours

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They don't even want them, they just want to frick them up then move on to something else they can frick up.

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Don't be such a kitty and handle eating :marseymandela: a little :marseymaoist: dirt lol

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If your hobby isn't self sufficient and dependent on a publicly traded company, the fight will be much harder for you unless you can be sufficiently toxic to scare away newcomers.

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When I was 13 I was in some random irc server and this guy asked if I was into warhammer. After he explained what it is I responded with 'that's pretty fricking gay' and he kicked me :marseygiveup:

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THIS COULD BE YOU!! :redlight: :redlight: :bluelight: :bluelight: :redlight: :redlight:

Imagine just enjoying your hobby and then an absolute :marseychonkerfoid: comes around and stars foidsplaining to :marseychonkernoticeme:

Give woman any ground, they will push you out :marseysuffragette:

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women

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Sorry, foid

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!slots200

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!slots250

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Sucks to be me

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:marseydepressed:

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If "Warhummer" or whatever it is it's your hobby, this is what you deserve. Namaste

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I got around 30 40k omnibus books from my brother-in-law that are printed from 2000-2008. Alot of them are worth alot of money to r-slurs, apparently. They are great bedtime reading. I cant imagine reading any fiction published past 2016. Especially neurodivergent "we might be imperial space marines but we're not fricking racist!!!!"

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The cognitive dissonance :marseyhearnoevil: is an intentional character :marseycrystalmaiden: trait I'm pretty :marseyglam: sure

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Normalspeak: Our customers hate this product that we want to jam down their throat :marseyitsover:

Corporatespeak: we can't send this product due to logistic issues, as the shelf space in stores is not large enough :marseygigachad:

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I don't care about lady space marines. I have to explain missed shots somehow.

I do care about letting irl foids play games.

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All of 40K's lore and storytelling exists to provide context for selling toy soldiers to people, and as the customer base changes so too will that lore.

While I acknowledge that this is true, I have never and will never actually play a game of 40k. I literally just consume the sci-fi book slop.

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Every male dominated hobby keeps trying and failing to get more female customers. But the corpos will try and try again. Its a combination of greed, hating your own audience and never learning from your mistakes. Just give it time and they will fail and things will go back to normal... until they try again.

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Wh40k is dead for me.

Space marines 2 will be gay game

Amazon show will be gay

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Accurate name

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