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How do trans women cope with the loss of male privilege?

male privilege is dysphoria inducing

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Idk being a woman is harder yah, but it honestly wasn't too rough of an adjustment. I already knew what I was getting into, i knew if he sexually harassed, I knew men wouldn't listen to me, I knew I'd be objectified. And it's not like it was sudden, those things just became more common over the months until I was stealth and it plateaued. Obviously experiencing it is different than knowing g about it and it was a bit intense feeling that fear from being harassed the first time but idk you learn pretty fast what with how resocialization works physiologically.

Plus I was barely aware of my life when I was a boy, it was all a dissociative haze so I didn't really notice much of the privilege or much of anything at all

real

trans women don't get access to male privilege pre-transition

we also don't really get access to female privilege post-transition unless you're a gigapassoid stacy, so we lose either way


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https://old.reddit.com/r/4tran4/comments/18vqfb3/so_fembrained_you_think_transgirls_care_about/kftu81e?context=8

This comment chain is pure unhinged behavior between two :marseytrain:s trying to outdo the other's insanity.

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Most tranners are gay sissy wimps pre-transition and don't get much of the male privilege, if such a thing even exists.

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No, most of them are perverted men who are addicted to hentai and think they're transitioning into an anime girl.

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No, most of them are perverted men who are addicted to hentai and think they're transitioning into an anime girl.

Why should I care exactly? Their enemies seem to either be the boomers that lost every fight to get us here or the "KILL ALL MEN" brigade.

I'm not a fan of extending it to kids but we have bigger problems than gooners at the moment, in case you haven't noticed.

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Or nerds. I've heard a convincing argument that nerdiness is kind of a third/a-gender presentation in the sense that it weakens both masculinity and femininity.

(If you're a trans woman (or even a cis woman) that acts nerdy it's "malebrained" but if you're a nerdy male it's weak and emasculating. So it being a third thing that removes both femininity and masculinity kinda checks out.)

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Male privileges:

  • enlist in the draft at 18 or be fined $250,000 and sent to prison as a felon for 5 years and become ineligible for federal employment, political office, and voting in many states

  • be expected to fix everyone else's problems but also just be a good listener and don't fix our problems and don't expect s*x after listening to all our problems

  • hold the door for women but also don't do it sexistly

  • take charge and make the first move and pick up on women's subtle clues about s*x but also don't be sexually aggressive

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!moidmoment !downmarseyrs dusty nonsense

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When ī turned 18 ī received a letter from the government saying they would fine mé $250,000 and put mé in prison for 5 years as a felon unless ī signed the enclosed draft card because ī was a man.

@ACA say this as a feminist ally

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As you should. We need more men to die in wars

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Reported for sexism. Women are most affected by this. Dont make me cite the Hilldawg

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I didn't sign up. I received a letter from the government saying that I had been automatically registered (against my consent) a few months after the deadline to register.

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Ī fricked up and left the first letter on the counter for a few months. The second one was much more threatening.

Send draft letters too females, @ACA say this as a feminist ally

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I just had a great bait idea... :marseytroublemaker!:

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/r/DraftWomen4Equality

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I've got a friend who never signed up, and the government dindu nuffin bout it.

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most people are automatically signed up when they get a license

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The sad truth is, you're just not worth anything in the eyes of society. One man can have thousands of children, whereas each woman can only produce a few children. The loss of a male is no big deal. No one will admit it, but in reality 99.9% of people only care about how much of an asset you are, even your immediate family. And for females that does mean caring for them as a person, but for males it does not.

This also means that things like sexism, racism, bullying, etc. are 100% natural. That's why we can never manage to get rid of it. It's all ancient survival mechanisms, that prioritize the group above the individual.

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Male privilege; the ability to physically destroy :marseymini: any femoid in a 10 mile radius

Trans lives matter

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Male privilege; the ability to physically destroy :marseymini: any femoid in a 10 mile radius

You can't do that without the State coming down upon you; yet you are still expected to deploy that strength or look weak.

If a woman hits you - if you hit her you're an butthole, and if you take it you're literally a kitty's kitty. Previously, the State and society would grant men certain compensatory privileges for giving up their ability to commit violence to the State, until feminists convinced the State to recind those because women did not want to be held to that expense.

Ergo, we live in a society that expects its men to both have the negatives of patriarchal duties, with none of the positives.

Given men will never be free from this, and any "gender equality" movement invariably and solely focuses on releasing women from any constraints or obligations at male and society-wide expense, the end-solution is obvious: restore patriarchy in full.

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I'm down with it

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>cops find out

Skill issue

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"Just fight the whole state bro, like an action movie bro!"

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You don't need to fight :marseyryu: the state :marseylouisiana: to make a foid quiet

Trans lives matter

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I do if she reports it to the cops - even if she started it, I will de facto be at fault by default.

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Kill her.

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:#marseybateman:

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Re-energize the feminist movement by banning women from voting :hmm:

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Re-energize? Bro it's gulag time, all their energy will be used on digging holes, and then filling the holes they dug, and repeating until they expire or serve their sentences.

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Male privilege: be a woman and steal all their awards and nuke all their world records

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aint nobody gettin drafted neighbor 😂😂

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Then why did Ī have too sign a draft card

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BUT BUT THE CARD SAID IT! A PIECE OF PAPER SAID IT! WHY WOULD THEY SAY IT IF IT WASNT TRUE?????? When someone says a thing why do they not do that thing?

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It can and will happen at some point. It wasn't that long ago that we were drafting men to go fight pointless wars in Vietnam.

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!jannies can I get a snitch badge

Jewish lives matter too everypony but Zionists

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I deserve the first :marseywinner: snitch, I'm the OG drama :marseypunished2: snitch :marsey69: b-word

Trans lives matter

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That's obviously a self-ironic joke making fun of the trans groomer stereotype.

Don't tell me you believe anyone is so stupid so as to believe any :marseytrain2: would openly state her desire to groom in an rDrama groomercord in those terms.

cc: @transb-word

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tldr

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It's an obvious joke.

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Precisely. M.y dad's generation was the Vietnam Gen. He enlisted but most dudes he knew were draftees.

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Yeah, why would America ever reimplement the draft?

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Literally none of this is hard or onerous :faggot: stop fricking bitching. You will never be drafted because you're a weakling, listening requires absolutely no effort. Fixing problems is fun, and are you seriously whining about opening a fricking door? And what, you don't want to be dominant and assertive? The frick is wrong with you, boy?

/r/menslib for you strag

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>you won't be drafted but they'll put you in prison for not signing up for the draft

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YOU WON'T BE DRAFTED BUT THEY'LL PUT YOU IN PRISON FOR NOT SIGNING UP FOR THE DRAFT

yes you fricking commie cute twink, you deserve to go to prison for being a pathetic little coward who won't defend the country that raised him IN AN ALL OUT EXISTENTIAL WAR

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War is cool and based

Make women equal partners In it, @ACA say this as a feminist ally

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But women don't have to.

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/r/menslib is based, I wish more men experienced feminism in a positive light like they do over there. The door shit is stupid, no one follows that shit where I'm from, and I don't expect anyone to do it for me. Basically if someones behind you, you should hold it open for them so that they can grab it. Doesn't have anything to do with gender.

The draft I disagree with, both because it is sexist and because it violates the right to our own self-determination. Conscription has no place in civilized society. In the event that there is a draft again, it's likely that Congress will amend the Selective Service to also include women. Commissioned reports so far encourage the US to consider applicants across disciplines and regardless of s*x. Modern warfare is very technical, like chess, and technical experts span across the genders.

The age of mass mobilization for cannon fodder infantry is over. A modern draft would be where everyone--regardless of s*x--is considered, especially in regards to their skillsets. You might be pulled away from your job to go work for an arms manufacturer, for example. Or design rockets, or steer rockets remotely. America loves fighting in proxy wars rather than attacking directly.

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there's no 'positive feminism for men' because feminism is inherently an ideology for women.

If you think it's about equality and not gibs, you've fallen for the propaganda. All of these minoritarian movements (feminism, BLM, gay, gender identity, MRA etc) are about redirecting social benefits to their given group, until they have more disproportionately when compared to the larger society. It has an inherent parasitism to it, and any demo that isn't part of their group will suffer with decreased quality of life.

It's a terrible idea to encourage breaking society up into these blocs.

Think about the idea of a 'gay community'. Maybe it made sense once, but now you're just navelgazing because you have the same sexual orientation in common. Myopic, narc BS.

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Don't stop until we dominate

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All /r/menslib seems like to me is a "Vichy Scroteland" with the Feminists in the role of the Nazis. Or maybe a Warsaw Pact type thing.

Modern warfare is very technical, like chess, and technical experts span across the genders.

Most technical experts are men, with some MtFs and malebrained women sprinkled in there a bit. Also, as seen in Ukraine, it's likely to be an odd fusion of infantry warfare and advanced machinery - the grinder still needs meat for now. We don't have autonomous infantry replacement robots yet.

America is having difficulties maintaining the size of its current army in peacetime recruitment. If there's any sort of war or extended crisis we will either have to hope for a massive uptick in voluntary enlistments (lol no) or a draft.

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:#marseysal: draft will still be a draft, for cannon fodder. yes it will be technical, but that really doesn't translate into an overwhelming need for technical experts. How many experts were actually working on the atomic bomb, how many where there to do low level work? who tf will be drafted and made to design rockets? the technical aspect is already taken care of, all we really need are more soldiers

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it's likely that Congress will amend the Selective Service to also include women

I'll believe that when I see it. No one ever expects women to have any obligations. Except in the very specific circumstance where they're married with children, their husbands might want them to take care of the kids during the day, because you know, he can't because he's slaving his life away all day.

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you are a cis autoandrophile

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  • Be a decent fricking person

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with the door thing I started just, if I'm at the door ill open it and go in first then keep the door open so she can walk in

as opposed to what I was taught, which is to open the door and let her walk in ahead of me then go in myself

admittedly I'm not doing it my way because of the political climate or whatever the frick but it's my excuse for doing so because holding a door open for someone and letting them walk in before me is fricking r-slurred how is that in any way nice? It's just awkward if I wanted to check out someone's backside I'd just glance over discreetly. Holding the door open, that's nice.

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so sexist, @ACA say this as a feminist ally

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If FTMs benefit from the male privilege, how come they make up 90% of /r/detrans users? :marseyhmm:

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Women tend to transition because they experienced abuse or are depressed. They tend to look at being a man as an escape or defense against what is bothering them. Soon they realize it doesn't help that and they will have to confront and deal with their problems eventually.

Men transition because anime girls make them horny and no one will frick them either way.

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>When women do thing it's because of trauma

>When men do thing it's because they're stupid

yess so true!!! men bad women good! men bad women good!

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Literally yes

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Women do it because weak

Men do it because pathetic

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hating the opposite s*x is very small minded I think.

While it's true that men are often cold and women sometimes abuse empathy for control, there is another type of empathy. the tough love of a parent or the understanding love of a friend.

happy new year

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You just cracked feminism.

And it's not like we have a shortage of fujoshis cutting :marseycutattention: off their boobs.

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Kill all men

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because they realize that getting a pixie cut and wearing hoodie :marseyerenabs2: and sweatpants doesn't make you a man.

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inherent female cattiness + short male lived experience + autism = ideal rdrama poster

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If FTMs benefit from the male privilege

They don't. Remember that "41%" meme? It was like 30% for MtFs and 50% for FtMs.

Being a small and timid (female-socialized or asocial) manlet is not good for you in any way.

It's easy to look like a male, but hard to become an attractive, masculine and assertive male from an FtM start.

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Uhh, Elliot Page is having the time of their lives. You see those abs? Not the abs of someone miserable!

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dude bussy lmao

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I don't know which is male privelage because no one who goes in that store wants to be his friend or hire him or have s*x with him or anything. I just would prefer he not smell like shit. You only smell that way if you don't shower for a long time.

If nobody is going to be her friend regardless, why bother? Why should she inconvenience herself?

Provide legible incentives if you want a behavior to be done.

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dude bussy lmao

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How do I get a taftaj gf?

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ahem im right here

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dont u already have a bf u cheating whore

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Okami right? This wolf is cute :marseywolflove::marseywolflove::marseywolflove: :marseywolfpat:

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Don't you have a boyfriend already?

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What is a "taftaj gf"?

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Google taftaj (nsfw)

She's the perfect woman

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This is probably true until you become the slightest bit emotional as a dude then it's gameover :donkeykongsad:

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because being emotional as a man is fricking r-slurred and the opposite of what it means to be a Man.

real Men do not become emotional. Real Men are passionate. Big difference.

Real Men can express that passion in a myriad of ways, it should burn strong and powerful.

boys get emotional. men are passionate.

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the male nature, like the artist, is about inflicting himself upon the world.

Some displays of emotion are unmasculine, some aren't. Poets and artists are actually 'masculine' in that they use their emotions to create works of beauty, and gain other things through it (money, fame, kitty).

Poets, astrologers, cooks - all were traditionally male.

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Emotions or any form of sensitivity as a man is a sign you were never a man at all

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same feeling, different context, different meaning

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Another ban award? Transb-word is the most oppressed rdrama :marseylovedrama: user also come back to the gooncord but no glowing :marseybraveglow: this time please :marseypleading2:

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It seems like almost every post has been getting one lately.

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as a :marseymanlet: after transitioning the way society treated me improved a lot

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I knew I'd be objectified

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Strategy:

:#marseycopeseethedilate:

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Male privilege isn't really a thing for young men. Income below ~40 is about equal, and in nearly all positions - from hiring to teachers to college admissions, cis women are openly treated preferentially, even putting aside the dating world. To the extent that it exists socially, it exists in assertiveness and intimidation, strength and respect - which is not a boon to nerdy and/or effeminate males, which incels and AGP MtFs, as well as nearly all internet posters, tend to be.

So when some of these men "jump the fence" to become women because they have garnered no gain or respect, yet still recieve penalties, blame and disadvantage, I cannot blame them - only congratulate them on their newfound boldness and victory.

TERFs will say ":marseytrain2:S ARE INCELS IN DRESSES!" - if so, good. IF trans people are often incels that found a hole in the Liberal system to their benefit, that's a good thing.

cc: @definitelynottransb-word

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dude bussy prfivilege lmao. unless everyone is privileged equally some bussy will be equaller than others

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Loss of it lmao

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What male privilege applies to an under-40, nerdy or effeminate male in the United States in 2023?

Name one. Legal or social. I dare you. Report me with your answer, @ me somewhere else, idc.

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What male privilege?

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