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J.K. Rowling misunderstands female reproductive biology

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She seems to be under the impression that women produce eggs over the course of their lifetime

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Also her definition is circular as frick

>everyone who belongs to the s*x class is in the s*x class

:#picard:

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All women have peepeees.

Even I have a better understanding of female reproductive biology than JK Rowling.

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A clitoris is just a micropeepee

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Women be small peepeeed 🤣

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i'm pretty sure that pre-natally speaking this is actually kind of true

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Aren't we all just a clump of cells? So the cops should really be more chill about DUIs and vehicular homicide.

(If I deconstruct things enough, even I don't know what the frick I'm talking about. :marseyfluffy:)

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yes, but a human being either is alive or not. And humans in general care about the human, not clumps of cells

>If I deconstruct things enough, even I don't know what the frick I'm talking about. :marseyfluffy:

this is actually a thing post-structuralists could be okay with (not postmodernists though, they can have standards). This is 30 yrs old: https://www.fudco.com/chip/deconstr.html have fun

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I believe that you're referring to omegas

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We've kind of colonized their gender.

We are US, and people with vaginas are the Native Americans. It's the way things go. They should grow a peepee if they want to be woman and adapt to our culture.

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>Inverting the cissoid :marseytrain2: dynamic through an intentional embrace of settler colonialism

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Obviously the end point is stage 8, what stage we at right now sis

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Her definition is almost exactly what they teach in biology class as the definition of female, and more or less what chatGPT or Wikipedia would tell you.

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All definitions are fuzzy, though. You can define a chair as something with four legs that is intended for sitting, and someone could break one of the legs and say "well I guess it's not a chair anymore!". There's exceptions to the definition of species as well. In the end all definitions are imperfect at capturing every single case. A good definition maximizes usefulness and minimizes edge cases. Since most men don't see trans women as fungible with biological women, trying to fuse the categories fails the first criteria of maximizing usefulness. A notable exception to this is if you're a gigapassoid. If you're trans and men consider you substantially fungible with biological women, then I'd have no problem saying you're a real woman.

Woman: an organism straight men want to frick.

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I think this is essentially correct though it doesn't have to revolve around giving men boners lol. Not all trans women are real women, but if you pass sufficiently well (since cis women sometimes get accused of being men too, and you can pass in some circumstances but not others, passing is a spectrum), you are a real woman, since that is how people treat you.

I think what you're saying about the fuzziness of definitions is really important. TWANW believers rely on imperfect definitions as a criteria for exclusion, even though they freely admit that meeting their definition is not a necessary or even sufficient component of womanhood. They basically do mental gymnastics to avoid admitting that the 'exceptions' they include/exclude prove that gender is socially constructed. TWAAW believers do the opposite and assert that because gender is socially constructed you can just label anything a woman, which is also r-slurred.

Unfortunately 'just pass lol' makes for a horrible legal standard, so countries are forced to rely on medicalization or self-ID or denial of the existence of trans women (real). It's the perfect set up for endless social conflict

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I have no problem with trains who pass and are reasonably gender conforming. I also don't care if they don't pass if they're not completely hideous. And also so long as they act normal.

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And also so long as they act normal.

This is all anyone really cares about at the end of the day. It's why people hate speedrunners and furries as well.

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There's probably some more sophisticated formulation that adjusts for your intended dating pool. Ultimately the words we use for s*x are half of the equation (+orientation) we use to categorize people into dating pools.

S*x is who you are. Orientation is what s*x you want. And if s*x is defined by gigapassing, these two pieces of information allow you to deduce who is attracted to who. Very useful.

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There's evidence it could be either way

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also OP is r-slurred she didnt say they continuously are produced and it wasn't even implied

edit: LMAO the :marseytrain2: banning someone for speaking literal truth? @Kongvann we're on the slide to being reddit 2.0 here buddy

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It was implied when she said "aged beyond being able to produce"

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:marseyhesright: this neighbor can read

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She was implying neonates are female, comrade. Do try to think.

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sophistry is not gonna turn you into a woman

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Long term estrogen usage already did that :marseynails:

Also it isn't sophistry to assert I'm a woman when everyone I know, family, friends, strangers i meet, government officials, etc. effortlessly affirms this. The sophistry is when you say everything that does not meet criteria X is not a woman and then also carve out a bunch of exceptions based on vibes (but im totally not defining a woman based on vibes!)

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Literally adult human female

:chadb#lackyes:

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Yes chad poster is r-slurred as usual

All this does is shift the argument to what is a female, which is functionally the same question

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Large gamete maker.

:chadblack#yes:

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Even though there are women who don't make any gametes at all

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They can go to the freakshow or loony bin with the rest of you tbh

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I accept your concession

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You really gotta stretch her words to come to the conclusion that she's wrong. Maybe consider that you're just :marseygigaretard:

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I mean, her own post is a hedge against her own wrongness. If she actually believed the absence or presence of large gamete production was sufficient to determine whether or not someone was a woman she woild just say that. She has to ammend her statement as "belongs to the s*x class who produces large gametes" because she knows there are women who have no large gametes and never had large gametes

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Sounds like you're doing that thing where you suck at actually reading words again.

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You're being obtuse because I'm right :marseyindignantwoman:

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How many people would you say misalign with her definition if she leaves out the "class" part of her statement? 0.01%?

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It doesn't matter. Either something is a necessary component of a category or it isn't

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necessity_and_sufficiency

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This isn't debate or philosophy class, dipshit. Answer the question or I'll frick you up with some Gödel.

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>the meanings of words dont matter

Then why are chuds so mad about trans women being considered women

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Keep avoiding the question, eventually you'll win the argument that way :marseyeyeroll2:

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You can push the definitions any which way but you're really more man than woman. The answer is just being comfortable with being an inbetween which for some reason :!marseytrain:s refuse to do despite that being the superior option.

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Endocrinology can overrule every other sexual trait except chromosomes so i'd argue it should be the primary basis on which someone's biology can be said to be closer to male or female

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Won't help those linebacker shoulders or Adam's Apple tho

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It will if you get on HRT early enough to avoid the development of either (or if you're #blessed with a feminine body relative to your age)

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You're not a woman but it's ok.

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Just change "produces" to "produced" and the definition is valid, you spectacularly r-slurred pedant. :#marseygigaretard:

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No joke. Women just do all their meiosis on the front end. They still take their moms X and their dad's X and recombine them into large, nutrient-laden gametes.

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Women are lazy as frick

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Honestly, my personal opinion on JK Rowling is I don't fricking care. She has the right to her beliefs and nothing she says is that fricking offensive. I'm sick of hearing about her, I'm sick of people overreacting to some pretty mundane views, I can disagree with someone's views and still read Harry Potter and play some silly wizard game and still like it. I pirate fricking everything anyway, she isn't getting a fricking dime.

She is getting off on attention and her whole game is people over fricking react and look fricking r-slurred and as a :marseytrain:, It affects me because it causes people to act uncomfortable upon meeting me thinking I'm going to scream their head off for the slightest offense. I just want to mind my own business and I'm not interested in whatever fricking gender politics people are focusing on. I want access to Health Care, be free from discrimination in employment and housing and be free from violence or harassment in my day to day life and that is it. Your personal opinions about my gender identity, as long as you respect me somewhat, and I don't even enforce or care about gender pronouns, are whatever, you can believe whatever you want.

It doesn't cause me harm if someone calls me "he" because they have deeply held experiences or beliefs based on religious views, eventually, that is something I've realized I need to accommodate a bit to society and I can't expect society to accommodate perfectly to me. It's just a fricking one syllable word. I'm not saying someone should misgender intentionally to be a peepee, but frick. It's worse if a professor is on edge for example, thinking I'm going to be sensitive at the tiniest little mistake. I have to talk to every professor on the first day of class after class and tell them straight up "Don't believe I'm sensitive or anything." I do put forth effort, but I'm never going to pass, that is the reality. I have a deep voice, people accidentally misgender me without realizing. It's fricking okay.

I'm not saying I agree with JK Rowling or her views, but the best way to handle her is to just fricking ignore her and let her fade into obscurity.

Her fanbase also known as TERFs is composed of people who should view walking up a set of stairs as more threatening than a transgender person. They're loud, but they don't fricking go outside that often, and they're just going to grow the more attention you give her. :!marseytrain:s and TERFs also have something in common, none of them are breeding.

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"I don't care about JK Rowling":

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>She seems to be under the impression that women produce eggs over the course of their lifetime

She said they belong to the s*x class that produces large gametes.

Which s*x class produces large gametes?

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MEN CAN MENSTRUATE TOO

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Yes, a :marseytrain2: knows more than a !biofoids. You owned JK Rowling on this one fact :marseynails: SLAY AF

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>TERF is r-slurred

:#marseymanysuchcases:

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its easier to say she cant produce viable eggs than to say she doesnt have any eggs

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She means "produce" as in "provide for use" not "make new ones". Hope this helps clarify :marseysuffragette:

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This sounds like /r/menwritingwomen and /r/badwomensanatomy all rolled into one

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Females are not capable of making new eggs

What fricking r-slur wrote this

For that to be true we'd still have to be working off of the original supply God embedded into Eve

Or I guess maybe they think each child's fresh supply comes from the father somehow

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The fresh supply is developed by the child in the womb :marseyshrug:

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What's your point? Are you saying the child isn't female in the womb?

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Im saying the eggs are only created after the introduction of sperm

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Ok and?

The wiki says it doesn't happen at all, as if the author takes "assigned female at birth" literally or something

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Eggs are created as the woman is created. Technically your grandma carried half of you in her womb.

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She wrote so many words instead of just saying xx=woman

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They keep moving the goalposts, they draw a line in the sand and then have to draw a new one when it repeatedly gets pointed out that eg. there are cis XY women and cis XX men

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there are cis XY women and cis XX men

There arent tho

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This is an ahistorical take that throws intersex people under the bus to own the :marseytrain2:s. Nobody thinks CAIS women should use the men's bathroom

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Nobody thinks CAIS women should use the men's bathroom

That's because they actually are almost indistinguishable from women. If you can fool a TERF into thinking that you're a woman then she's not going to even know to object to your presence. But this doesn't describe transwomen because no one is fooled.

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Are posts like this just trolling or are you actually high off of dozens of right wing honposts

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No CAIS males are getting kicked out of women's bathrooms. Even if every state in the country passed laws banning them from women's bathrooms their lives would be unaffected except at the doctor's because no woman sees them as men or can even recognize them as CAIS males unless they're doing in depth (literally) examinations.

You, on the other hand, have good reason to worry when you walk into a women's bathroom. All a woman needs to do is notice your shoulders or your nose and you're busted. You are completely reliant on women being too cowed to call you out for the man that you are.

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You know people have like, friends and family and enemies who can figure this stuff out and use it against others right? Your appearance doesnt protect you from being persecuted by the law

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Post score chuddy

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I got 75%, but this didn't take in to account voice, stature, posture, hands/feet, etc

ugly women might be indistinguishable from :!marseytrain:s in selfies, but it's pretty easy to tell irl

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Intersex people arent even human so I dont get why you bring them up here

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Why are intersex people so triggering to the cishet endosex?

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Not triggering, its just a biological truth that intersex people arent human, they have too many chromosomes

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In some lucky XY individuals, their SRY gene is mutated or deleted so it no longer works, and they end up developing as female, sparing them the cursed existence of a male :marseysuffragette:

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That bathtub hrt is making you r-slurred OP

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A person claiming to be a woman makes circular arguments: Valid

A person who claims to be a woman yet wants to stick to facts and logic: CLOCKED!

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:marseyhorseshoe:

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What if a woman is born without ovaries? Patients with vaginal agenesis who also have androgen insensitivity syndrome do not have ovaries. But they appear as normal women.

I demand she correct her definition at once. I don't give a shit about :!marseytrain:s or culture wars or whatever, I demand she do it to satisfy my medical autism.

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What if a woman is born without arms?

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Also her definition is circular as frick

Rich, coming from the demographic that defines woman as someone who identifies as a woman

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Quoting Vaush: "That's not a circular definition. Why? Because it refers to the archetype."

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Quoting Vaush

:marseydisagree:

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Im not a theyfab albeit

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Smartest TERF

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Tbh, you don't have to care about what people think, even if you like their books.

Even weirder, you can disagree with someone and still like them or their work.

You're never going to get her to change her mind, no matter how many studies you post or how much you show her your reasoning.

So why get mad or care?

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@QuakerOats @Frank_Williams don't be so mean to JK Rowling, how was she supposed to know? :marseysad:

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I look forward to impending train derailment.

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shit bait from an r-slured BIPOC @I_am_a_man_sweety keep yourself safe immediement

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hi starry, im very much a live and let live kind of person, so i generally dont like just assuming that people are being facetious. one thing im confused about though is that you have self-referred multiple times using male terminology. "boyclit", "boislut", and "bussy" to name a few. me personally, referring to myself with any male terms tends like that to make me dysphoric. do you mind clarifying exactly how you feel about this kind of terminology? is it like, "okay i can say it but others cant"? or maybe you're not a transwoman, but more something along the lines of enby or genderfluid? or are you a femboy on hrt? im very confused and would like some clarification, but recognize im not entitled to answers. i would just like to be in an environment where everybody is on the same page. thats all :)

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Foids have all their eggs from birth which means women still made their eggs through meiosis at one point.

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Also her definition is circular as frick

>everyone who belongs to the s*x class is in the s*x class

yes in fact the purpose of a definition is to define the word you're defining

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