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It's more like monologue based on images and visualisations, feelings. There are no words in it.
Solving problems is like building mental legos. I just know when some bricks click with each other because they mentally fit so to say.
Why would I use words in my head to solve problems? That would seem really hard and clunky for me but I am sure this is some kind of preference.
The problem arises when translating these mental bricks to words to communicate your inner world to other people. Never quite works for me exactly as desired
Honestly I do not talk with myself but I do have text thoughts they are just more like pieces of text attached to images speeding through the highway of thought, too fast to form any dialogue but I see them like reading a book.
One thought always connects to others and jumps over many different capsules of ideas that all race super fast and brief, idk if that's usual way of things or not
Maybe reading lots of books when small kid has something to do with seeing rather than talking ? I also can remember precise mind image of something months after it was "taken" and I suspect it might not be that usual because some people commented on it
Interestingly: Nabokov insisted that he had synesthetic thoughts, and didn't think in words, and he was English's best prose stylist of the last 80 years.
No idea, though, if he was just lying to sound cool, or really did translate a bunch of fuzzy internal grunts and silent blue sibilint sounds into such beautiful words.
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Imma sneak over like a spider and get sum of dat fat butt
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most people to the left of the bell curve are not rationalizing or making decisions on more than an instinctual level. They have no ability to plan for the future since that involves envisioning something you can't see, taste, touch or otherwise interact with until a later date that might not even come without additional work and self control.
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Imma sneak over like a spider and get sum of dat fat butt
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This belief can be dispelled thoroughly by visiting any third world country and talking to people. Most people have no concept of the future. Sure they know the days of the week and how a calendar works. Close to the equator, even knowledge of seasons becomes irrelevant. There will always be food to get, there will always be some water. No planning needed. These people don't operate on a schedule, keep appointments, and can't imagine anyone else doing these things either. Why do you need to think if you never need to plan. Drink water if you feel thirsty, eat some bush meat if you are hungry, take a shit when the time comes. You don't just learn to think bc you left some tropical paradise. Your kids don't get born in the west and become imbued with the power of thought.
This and the "can't mentally visualize things" is r-slurred semantic games to make people feel special and special for not being special. I don't trust "synesthesia" either.
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I think everyone has to have an internal monologue, and if they say they don't then they are lying or don't understand what it means.
How else can you rationalize and make decisions?
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It's more like monologue based on images and visualisations, feelings. There are no words in it.
Solving problems is like building mental legos. I just know when some bricks click with each other because they mentally fit so to say.
Why would I use words in my head to solve problems? That would seem really hard and clunky for me but I am sure this is some kind of preference.
The problem arises when translating these mental bricks to words to communicate your inner world to other people. Never quite works for me exactly as desired
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Inner monologue isn't just for solving problem, it can also help rationalize why you are doing things, especially if you are hesitant in something
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I think I have inner monologue when I am high. It's kind of funny like I am talking to myself in my mind and hear voice
It's a sure sign that means edibles started working
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Honestly I do not talk with myself but I do have text thoughts they are just more like pieces of text attached to images speeding through the highway of thought, too fast to form any dialogue but I see them like reading a book.
One thought always connects to others and jumps over many different capsules of ideas that all race super fast and brief, idk if that's usual way of things or not
Maybe reading lots of books when small kid has something to do with seeing rather than talking ? I also can remember precise mind image of something months after it was "taken" and I suspect it might not be that usual because some people commented on it
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Yeah if you don't think in language you can't communicate your mental map very well. Shape rotators with low verbal IQ are high tier peons
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How do you think people rationalized before language?
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Instinct and associating object/actions with good/bad, but not being able to chain those association together to create greater/more broad assumptions
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I'm not sure we did, is there evidence we had advanced societies before language?
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the thought processor 3000 will eliminate the need for language
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Okay, anyone who can speak.
Interestingly: Nabokov insisted that he had synesthetic thoughts, and didn't think in words, and he was English's best prose stylist of the last 80 years.
No idea, though, if he was just lying to sound cool, or really did translate a bunch of fuzzy internal grunts and silent blue sibilint sounds into such beautiful words.
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most people to the left of the bell curve are not rationalizing or making decisions on more than an instinctual level. They have no ability to plan for the future since that involves envisioning something you can't see, taste, touch or otherwise interact with until a later date that might not even come without additional work and self control.
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I still think these people have an inner monologue, just don't use it as much as most people/only usw it when they are in a fight/flight situation
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Surely that couldn't be the case. Fight or flight is for sure the time when I'm not taking the time to internalize my actions. That shit is instinct.
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I think the takeaway here is that some people don't rationalize and make decisions
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But I think they still can, but choose not too for most situations.
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This belief can be dispelled thoroughly by visiting any third world country and talking to people. Most people have no concept of the future. Sure they know the days of the week and how a calendar works. Close to the equator, even knowledge of seasons becomes irrelevant. There will always be food to get, there will always be some water. No planning needed. These people don't operate on a schedule, keep appointments, and can't imagine anyone else doing these things either. Why do you need to think if you never need to plan. Drink water if you feel thirsty, eat some bush meat if you are hungry, take a shit when the time comes. You don't just learn to think bc you left some tropical paradise. Your kids don't get born in the west and become imbued with the power of thought.
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100% of them don't know what it means. Not having an internal monologue means you're brain dead, they just want to seem special.
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This and the "can't mentally visualize things" is r-slurred semantic games to make people feel special and special for not being special. I don't trust "synesthesia" either.
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https://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Galton/imagery.htm
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With their brains. We use words to refer to concepts, but the words are not the concepts themselves.
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