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After critics decry Orion heat shield decision, NASA reviewer says agency is correct :marseyrandom:

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/12/former-flight-director-who-reviewed-orion-heat-shield-data-says-there-was-no-dissent/

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Within hours of NASA announcing its decision to fly the Artemis II mission aboard an Orion spacecraft with an unmodified heat shield, critics assailed the space agency, saying it had made the wrong decision.

"Expediency won over safety and good materials science and engineering. Sad day for NASA," Ed Pope, an expert in advanced materials and heat shields, wrote on LinkedIn.

There is a lot riding on NASA's decision, as the Artemis II mission involves four astronauts and the space agency's first crewed mission into deep space in more than 50 years.

A former NASA astronaut, Charles Camarda, also expressed his frustrations on LinkedIn, saying the space agency and its leadership team should be "ashamed." In an interview on Friday, Camarda, an aerospace engineer who spent two decades working on thermal protection for the space shuttle and hypersonic vehicles, said NASA is relying on flawed probabilistic risk assessments and Monte Carlo simulations to determine the safety of Orion's existing heat shield.

"I worked at NASA for 45 years," Camarda said. "I love NASA. I do not love the way NASA has become. I do not like that we have lost our research culture."

Pope, Camarada, and others—an official expected to help set space policy for the Trump administration told Ars on background, "It's difficult to trust any of their findings"—note that NASA has spent two years assessing the char damage incurred by the Orion spacecraft during its first lunar flight in late 2022, with almost no transparency. Initially, agency officials downplayed the severity of the issue, and the full scope of the problem was not revealed until a report this May by NASA's inspector general, which included photos of a heavily pock-marked heat shield.

This year, from April to August, NASA convened an independent review team (IRT) to assess its internal findings about the root cause of the charring on the Orion heat shield and determine whether its plan to proceed without modifications to the heat shield was the correct one. However, though this review team wrapped up its work in August and began briefing NASA officials in September, the space agency kept mostly silent about the problem until a news conference on Thursday.

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"Based on the data, we have decided—NASA unanimously and our decision-makers—to move forward with the current Artemis II Orion capsule and heat shield, with a modified entry trajectory," Bill Nelson, NASA's administrator, said Thursday. The heat shield investigation and other issues with the Orion spacecraft will now delay the Artemis II launch until April 2026, a slip of seven months from the previous launch date in September 2025.

Notably the chair of the IRT, a former NASA flight director named Paul Hill, was not present at Thursday's news conference. Nor did the space agency release the IRT's report on its recommendations to NASA.

In an interview, Camarda said he knew two people on the IRT who dissented from its conclusions that NASA's plan to fly the Orion heat shield, without modifications to address the charring problem, was acceptable. He also criticized the agency for not publicly releasing the independent report. "NASA did not post the results of the IRT," he said. "Why wouldn't they post the results of what the IRT said? If this isn't raising red flags out there, I don't know what will."

Ars took these concerns to NASA on Friday, and the agency responded by offering an interview with Paul Hill, the review team's chair. He strongly denied there were any dissenting views.

"Every one of our conclusions, every one of our recommendations, was unanimously agreed to by our team," Hill said. "We went through a lot of effort, arguing sentence by sentence, to make sure the entire team agreed. To get there we definitely had some robust and energetic discussions."

Hill did acknowledge that, at the outset of the review team's discussions, two people were opposed to NASA's plan to fly the heat shield as is. "There was, early on, definitely a difference of opinion with a couple of people who felt strongly that Orion's heat shield was not good enough to fly as built," he said.

However, Hill said the IRT was won over by the depth of NASA's testing and the openness of agency engineers who worked with them. He singled out Luis Saucedo, a NASA engineer at NASA's Johnson Space Center who led the agency's internal char loss investigation.

"The work that was done by NASA, it was nothing short of eye-watering, it was incredible," Hill said.

At the base of Orion, which has a titanium shell, there are 186 blocks of a material called Avcoat individually attached to provide a protective layer that allows the spacecraft to survive the heating of atmospheric reentry. Returning from the Moon, Orion encounters temperatures of up to 5,000° Fahrenheit (2,760° Celsius). A char layer that builds up on the outer skin of the Avcoat material is supposed to ablate, or erode, in a predictable manner during reentry. Instead, during Artemis I, fragments fell off the heat shield and left cavities in the Avcoat material.

Work by Saucedo and others, including substantial testing in ground facilities, wind tunnels, and high-temperature arc jet chambers, allowed engineers to find the root cause of gases getting trapped in the heat shield and leading to cracking. Hill said his team was convinced that NASA successfully recreated the conditions observed during reentry and were able to replicate during testing the Avcoat cracking that occurred during Artemis I.

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I do not love the way NASA has become. I do not like that we have lost our research culture.

Wokeism and political agenda are more important than their actual charge, dumb chud.

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I don't think the downfall of Nasa has anything to do with modern day culture wars.

It is just the sad fact that any government agency becomes more and more useless as time goes on. More and more bureaucrats get hired, processes get more and more bogged down

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It is a culture war issue though. This sort of mentality is one instilled into a system by women (and men conditioned by society to think like women). Go consult any major feminist work; they themselves admit that one of the principal differences between sexes is that women seek consensus and wish to avoid conflict and bad feelings. Unsurprisingly, the best way to do this is to create layers of bureaucracy. This way consensus can be forcibly generated through endless committee decisions, and no one ever has to directly confront another person and tell them that they're wrong, as instead they are able to turn to a faceless decision-making process and let the outcome of that speak for all.

Safetyism is a direct consequence of this. There's more than enough qualified brave men out there who would willingly hop on a rocket with a coin-flip chance of death simply because they value going to space and advancing mankind that much. The majority of the world's history has been determined by people with that mentality. But death is a scary thing that causes bad feelings, particularly among women, so instead we've created a system that minimizes the risk of bad feelings at the cost of incredible inefficiency.

Michael Collin's Carrying the Fire (great book, please read) provides a perfect insight into the sort of individual and institutional mentality that allowed us to go from nowhere to being on the Moon in under a decade, and that's the exact mentality that's been lost. You need people to be able to individually and rapidly come to decisions. But that's impossible in our current women-centric system.

Look at how SpaceX had to spend years in environmental review and litigation because of some women complaining about the risk the rocket launches pose to a tiny sliver of bird habitat. The result was inevitable, they would be able to launch, but instead of simply being able to tell these women that they were being dumb, everyone had to go through lengthy bureaucratic processes designed to both detach decisions from the realm of personal conflict and to validate everyone's feelings along the way.

That's why the :marseychingchong: are winning at everything; they've still got a system in place where they can tell people to sit down and shut up.

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I disagree that women are responsible for this phenomenon. Look at any historical empire/"great country". They all eventually went through a steep decline once their productive enterprises could no longer prop up their increasingly inefficient and bloated central government. From India, to the middle east, to every chinese dynasty.

Governments grow. Every 100 years there should be a mass purge of government employees

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