Genetic mistake curses those responsible

https://old.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1g5o3dh/aita_for_calling_my_parents_selfish_for_having_me/?sort=controversial

Edit: most of you figured it out anyway. It is Huntingtons.

I (28F) recently found out I have a serious hereditary illness that's going to screw up my life, and I am so mad I can barely type this out. It's a degenerative illness, no cure, nothing. My body's just gonna slowly get worse. And the kicker? My parents have known this could happen my whole life and never said a darn word.

This illness runs in my family. My dad's mom had it. His sister—my aunt—died from it a few years ago. I was living overseas when she passed, and my parents told me it was cancer. Cancer. They lied right to my face. It wasn't until I got diagnosed that they finally came clean and admitted she had the same illness I do. When I confronted them, my dad wouldn't even give me a straight answer. I asked if he had it too, and he dodged every single question, acting like I was overreacting.

My mom, on the other hand, tried to justify it by saying they didn't want me "living in fear." Are you kidding me? I could have been prepared! Instead, they chose to let me walk into this blind. And here's where it gets worse—I have a 2-year-old son. My child might have this, and they never told me I was at risk. I could've had him tested, made informed decisions, anything. But no, they took that from me, and now I live in constant fear for him too.

Then my mom had the nerve to ask me if I would have rather not been born than deal with this. Can you believe that? She turned it around on me, like I'm the monster for even thinking it. And you know what? Yes, I said it. Yes, I would rather not have been born than deal with this disease. They made a selfish choice, and now I'm paying for it. They knew the risks and did it anyway, for themselves. They wanted kids, and now I'm stuck with this. I called them selfish, and I meant every word.

Now, they're begging me not to tell my younger siblings. They don't know about this yet, haven't been tested, and my parents want to keep it that way. They're hoping they'll get lucky, but I'm not going to lie to them. I refuse to let them be blindsided like I was. They deserve to know the truth.

I've gone low contact with my parents. I can't stand to even think about them right now. My mom keeps trying to guilt-trip me, saying they were "just trying to protect me." Protect me from what? The truth? No, they weren't protecting me. They were protecting themselves, from the guilt of knowing they passed this on, and now they want me to protect them too. But I won't. I love my son and my siblings too much to lie to them.

AITA for going LC and refusing to keep their secret, even though they claim they were just trying to "protect" me?

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Slippery_Jim Trans/Lives Is publically friends with Turkey Tom 1mo ago #7180484

I was expecting :marseypreg: some typical redditor :marseywitchtriggered: bullshit :marseyitsallsotiresome: but I have to say this is a horrible situation and it's understandable she'd be very upset. TBH people with this disease :marseynurgle: in their family :marseystewie: should :marseynorm: not breed so she's kinda right.

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asshole there/then (>^.^(>O.○)> Slippery_Jim 1mo ago #7180491 ⭐️☢️🐱 Lost 300 coins

ita crazy to me how suggesting that anyone, spwcifically someone with a severe genetic disease like this, makes tou look lile a monster. And god forbid you suggest the dumbs breed less

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JimieWhales she/bitch An educated, strictly organic, ortho molecular aware patriotic princess. Slippery_Jim 1mo ago #7181312

... and yet dramneurodivergents have procreated :marseycantnootice:

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gaybowser Jeb/Bush Medically Certified r-slur JimieWhales 1mo ago #7181382

Confirmation bias. Most of us can't breed

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bellahadidofficial allahu/akbar 1mo ago #7180588

Finding out you had Huntington's and possibly passing it on to your child bc your parents were scared is super fricked and she has a very normal response to this info lol

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JimieWhales she/bitch An educated, strictly organic, ortho molecular aware patriotic princess. 1mo ago #7180486

Life is shit for everyone in their own way. Very few are blessed.

I look at you, I look at the person who burned to death in a house fire down the street, I look at the child r*ped on epstien island

I think your being a tad entitled, assuming you or any of us deserve better.

This is life, we are born, we reproduce and we die.

Despite your odds, you achieved lifes goal. Thanks to your parents.

In the grand scheme Huntington doesn't sound that bad? Death within 10-15 years of first symptoms.

Blessed compared to some lives. Kinda crappy compared to others. Defo not being un-born worthy.

I think those lads tortured for 30 years in guantanamo maybe have a case for being unborn, or the ppl who's skin is on literal fire due to nerves at all times.

But you get to live a good 70%+ of your life free. What's to complain about. I think your just going through the stages of grief after receiving the news, and currently on the enraged step

She deserved to be told so that she could prevent passing down the disease again

So she saying if her son was gonna have it she wouldn't of had him?

Awful take on her behalf tbh. She mad she didn't abort her son based on a disease he'd only have at end of his life?

OP said she wouldn't have had kids if she had known. That doesn't necessarily mean an abortion, it can also mean that she never would have tried for a kid.

Huntingtons can begin to kick in at 30 years old, do you consider 30 to be the end of your life?

I consider dead in 10-15 years before death end of your life regardless of age. I think 30 years free, dead by 45 is a decent life in your scenario yes.

But she has a kid, she's saying this retrospectively. She's looking at her kid rn, saying I wouldn't of had you if I'd known. Thats fricked.

Anyone of us could get cancer right? Are our parents right to not have us if they could magically know we would one day get cancer. Nah. Nah. This is fricked and only considered ok due to the nature of heredity disease foresite.

As said b4, I think she's processing the information poorly, and going thru the stages of grief

Dude I cannot take you seriously if you're genuinely telling me you consider 30 to be at the end of your life. Thats an absurd statement.

There's nothing fricked about saying that you would have made different decisions about having children if you had been fully informed of how their life would end up. She could have adopted, or fostered, or done genetic testing. She's not saying she regrets having her child, she's saying she's angry she was never given all of the information so she could have made an informed decision. It seems to me you're too desperate to be angry that you refuse to understand the distinction.

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JimieWhales 1mo ago #7185370

This guy's got that special troll technique, I know he's not legit but I'm still getting annoyed

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JimieWhales she/bitch An educated, strictly organic, ortho molecular aware patriotic princess. 1mo ago #7180472

No. Having children IS inherently selfish.

edit: down vote me some more it wont change anything lol

The people downmarseying you aren't trying to change your stupid opinion lol

im not talking about my opinion it literally changes, NOTHING, beyond my opinion. Like you commetning and downmarseying me doesnt change that fact that im right. Suck my balls and Down vote this too it does nothing l

Patriarch-ristmas Land/lord Patriarch of Dramastan JimieWhales 1mo ago #7181093

>The people downmarseying you aren't trying to change your stupid opinion lol

This kills the Redditor, telling them you don't care to debate their position but instead that they are an idiot not worth it

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MARFAN_EATS_DOODOO doo/doo 🤣😂🤣 JimieWhales 1mo ago #7182210

How much you want to bet this is some first world antinatalist angy about xir anixety and depression?

lain gnu/bsd and you don't seem to understand :marseypomni2:

1mo ago #7180531

@Corinthian

Curious what you'd think the Catholic response to this moral quandary would be :marseyhmm:

ManBearFridge O/I Subject Expert: Mayo Nonsense/Moderator lain 1mo ago #7180621

OP deserves it because God's plan

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lain 1mo ago #7180653

If I knew I was a carrier for a terrible genetic disease I would avoid reproducing and thus passing it down. Not like I need any help not reproducing :marseygrin:

Fresh_Start they/them Trans women are women. CLOACA-LICKER-69 1mo ago #7181051

Heck @Fresh_Start have seen enough of @Fresh_Start's genetic lineage that @Fresh_Start don't even have a fatal disease and @Fresh_Start still feel iffy about having kids.

Thankfully @Fresh_Start's emotional r-sluration makes it impossible for @Fresh_Start too breed.

Kamala will win.

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Nightcrawler X/Man Those whom I love, I reprove and chasten; so be zealous and repent. lain 1mo ago #7182320

John 9:

1As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. 2And his disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?" 3Jesus answered, "It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work.

Nightcrawler 1mo ago #7183779

Do you think a couple should still have children if they know they're carriers of something like Huntingtons?

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Nightcrawler X/Man Those whom I love, I reprove and chasten; so be zealous and repent. lain 1mo ago #7183878

I could understand why individuals with Huntingtons or other more highly heritable diseases would hesitate to have kids (Catholics aren't quiverfull, you do realize we view willful celibacy in the form of the sacrifice of one's desire as a witness to the reality of Christ and the resurrection as the highest calling, right?) but on a cultural and ethical level see the rise of eugenics and the shaming of those who have children as far greater evils. I mean it's already to the point in liberal/coastal cultures to shame perfectly healthy women for having 3 or more kids and that trend is only rising.

Catholics predicted this long before it ever started all the way back in the 1930s and have been vindicated on how the sexual revolution and a liberal eugenics have played out. Countries like Iceland openly celebrate that they have literally genocided all individuals with down syndrome. :marseysadge: :marseypraying: Shaming people with Huntingtons or whatever else just creates more of that.

Nightcrawler 1mo ago #7183905

do realize we view willful celibacy

within a couple I was under the impression having kids was imperative.

having 3 or more kids

my parents had two and my dad said his biggest regret was not having more :marseynirvanapat:

literally genocided all individuals with down syndrome

hmm I guess I haven't thought about it too hard, I'll have to consider what it means to screen for illnesses like that.

Nightcrawler X/Man Those whom I love, I reprove and chasten; so be zealous and repent. lain 1mo ago #7183985

I hope someday the weight of abortion and what's happening really hits you. Culturally we have hardened our hearts so much. Why is the Holocaust or other types of murder evil but killing children somehow ok? Even if it were ok, I think you can see that contraception and abortion have been a major factor in upending society and gender relations.

No, infertile men/women can still get married as long as their bodies function to perform the marital act and there are no teachings against controlling when you have s*x throughout the course of a woman's cycle (I don't talk about my s*x life on here usually, but unless one of us has fertility issues this is how I've been married for years without having kids yet). It's just the traditional Christian position that the natural law dictates that it is morally disordered to purposefully create barriers to conception, as the purpose of the marital act is both for the unity of the couple and the creation of new life.

Unfortunately, this disturbing state of affairs, far from decreasing, is expanding: with the new prospects opened up by scientific and technological progress there arise new forms of attacks on the dignity of the human being. At the same time a new cultural climate is developing and taking hold, which gives crimes against life a new and-if possible-even more sinister character, giving rise to further grave concern: broad sectors of public opinion justify certain crimes against life in the name of the rights of individual freedom, and on this basis they claim not only exemption from punishment but even authorization by the State, so that these things can be done with total freedom and indeed with the free assistance of health-care systems.

All this is causing a profound change in the way in which life and relationships between people are considered. The fact that legislation in many countries, perhaps even departing from basic principles of their Constitutions, has determined not to punish these practices against life, and even to make them altogether legal, is both a disturbing symptom and a significant cause of grave moral decline. Choices once unanimously considered criminal and rejected by the common moral sense are gradually becoming socially acceptable. Even certain sectors of the medical profession, which by its calling is directed to the defence and care of human life, are increasingly willing to carry out these acts against the person. In this way the very nature of the medical profession is distorted and contradicted, and the dignity of those who practise it is degraded. In such a cultural and legislative situation, the serious demographic, social and family problems which weigh upon many of the world's peoples and which require responsible and effective attention from national and international bodies, are left open to false and deceptive solutions, opposed to the truth and the good of persons and nations.

The end result of this is tragic: not only is the fact of the destruction of so many human lives still to be born or in their final stage extremely grave and disturbing, but no less grave and disturbing is the fact that conscience itself, darkened as it were by such widespread conditioning, is finding it increasingly difficult to distinguish between good and evil in what concerns the basic value of human life.

IDK how to get you to read long documents but Evangelium Vitae is really worth the effort.

Nightcrawler 1mo ago #7184360

This first murder is presented with singular eloquence in a page of the Book of Genesis which has universal significance: it is a page rewritten daily, with inexorable and degrading frequency, in the book of human history.

banger 🔥

The biblical text does not reveal the reason why God prefers Abel's sacrifice to Cain's. It clearly shows however that God, although preferring Abel's gift, does not interrupt his dialogue with Cain. He admonishes him, reminding him of his freedom in the face of evil: man is in no way predestined to evil. Certainly, like Adam, he is tempted by the malevolent force of sin which, like a wild beast, lies in wait at the door of his heart, ready to leap on its prey. But Cain remains free in the face of sin. He can and must overcome it: "Its desire is for you, but you must master it" (Gen 4:7).

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Brother kills brother. Like the first fratricide, every murder is a violation of the "spiritual" kinship uniting mankind in one great family, 11 in which all share the same fundamental good: equal personal dignity. Not infrequently the kinship "of flesh and blood" is also violated; for example when threats to life arise within the relationship between parents and children, such as happens in abortion or when, in the wider context of family or kinship, euthanasia is encouraged or practised.

:marseyaware:

and life, especially human life, belongs only to God: for this reason whoever attacks human life, in some way attacks God himself.

I guess I should stop cheering on the Israel stuff

paradoxical mystery of the merciful justice of God is shown forth.

I read a evangelical book who talked about this a lot - God Has a Name.

promotion of certain kinds of sexual activity which, besides being morally unacceptable, also involve grave risks to life?

:chudsmug:

Precisely in an age when the inviolable rights of the person are solemnly proclaimed and the value of life is publicly affirmed, the very right to life is being denied or trampled upon, especially at the more significant moments of existence: the moment of birth and the moment of death.

:marseyburn:

it cannot be denied that such a culture of death, taken as a whole, betrays a completely individualistic concept of freedom, which ends up by becoming the freedom of "the strong" against the weak who have no choice but to submit.

:gigachad2:

Yes, every man is his "brother's keeper", because God entrusts us to one another. And it is also in view of this entrusting that God gives everyone freedom, a freedom which possesses an inherently relational dimension. This is a great gift of the Creator, placed as it is at the service of the person and of his fulfilment through the gift of self and openness to others; but when freedom is made absolute in an individualistic way, it is emptied of its original content, and its very meaning and dignity are contradicted.

:marseydeadinside2: I'm not sure I can live up to this standard

If Cain is capable of confessing that his fault is "greater than he can bear", it is because he is conscious of being in the presence of God and before God's just judgment. It is really only before the Lord that man can admit his sin and recognize its full seriousness. Such was the experience of David who, after "having committed evil in the sight of the Lord", and being rebuked by the Prophet Nathan, exclaimed: "My offences truly I know them; my sin is always before me. Against you, you alone, have I sinned; what is evil in your sight I have done"

:marseydead:

BibleBot beep/boop lain 1mo ago #7184364

Genesis 4:7

If you do well, will it not be lifted up? If you don't do well, sin crouches at the door. Its desire is for you, but you are to rule over it."

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ManBearFridge O/I Subject Expert: Mayo Nonsense/Moderator lain 1mo ago #7184780

Keep in mind you aren't allowed to use contraceptives to prevent Parkinson or downs sysdrom babies. That's worse than creating Parkinson/downie babies.

ManBearFridge O/I Subject Expert: Mayo Nonsense/Moderator Nightcrawler 1mo ago #7184788

genocided

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