Apple Vision is the last gasp. I expect nothing short of complete Armageddon but Apple has a real knack for selling turds en masse.*
The first Iphone was worse than every other feature phone on the market at the time and it sold gangbusters. It's permanently set mobile innovation back and I fricking hate it.
*To be fair $3500 is a serious sum, even for itoddlers.
I think we're reaching the limits of VR until we can solve the mobility issue and/or sitting VR becomes acceptable. (Solving the weight issue is a big thing too. The hip pack is genius but it's very un-apple. They've also patented their new idea of putting the battery on the back of the strap so I expect that to be a bugbear for the next two decades)
Most "non-brave" vr games boil down to "fumble about in a room full of physics props" and most "brave" first person shooters are watered down versions of existing ones.
Boneworks is the sole exception but that's it. I'd expect more "cockpit" type games but I haven't really seen much of them.
I'm gonna say it. The VR gaming scene is mostly porn and really creepy chatroom porn ...and I can't really say that it's not the most effective use of the technology.
Its never going to break out unless they can make a VR capable all in one machine that can match the fidelity of playing a regular modern game and cost the same as a console. Only weird losers go out of their way to buy an expensive headset on top of an expensive machine to not make it look like a 2003 gamecube game.
VR looking like gamecube isn't the issue (for me at least). What I want is something that doesn't force you to design an entire room around it and isn't physically taxing to play (outside of all the natural exercising you're doing).
Preferably also not costing an arm and a leg but even all the mega expensive treadmills coming out look kinda sus with game compatibility.
I'm surprised it hasn't taken off more among racing sim players. I know multiple people who have spent well over £1000 on their racing set ups but none have any interest in adding a vr headset
I don't really do racing sims anymore but did as a kid and keep up with the scene from time to time.
From what I gathered, it's more tiring (in multiple ways - eyes, muscles, maybe some motion sickness), and while the added immersion is fun, it really don't add much to actual gameplay, you look forward 99% of the time, and most racing sims either have a radar or a spotter which nullifies any need to look at cars either side of you.
When the initial wow factors wears off, convenience ultimately trumps immersion. Also, lot of racing sim guys are older, have family, kids, dogs etc., they need to be available and aware instead of locked inside VR.
Lastly, other options have also gotten better. Ultrawide monitors are bigger, better and cheaper, and some people also run 55"/65" TV's they got on sale.
VR in racing/flight sims with a good setup will definitely give you an 'holy shit' experience but after a couple hours you kinda just would rather play the game on a surround screen than have something strapped to your face that provides no benefit in the game
That really goes for almost any game that has a VR mode that doesn't do anything besides add looking around
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All sorts of people wanna piece of me! Except for the !cuteandvalid peeps, since you're no longer among their number
Tbf @Grue bring it on myself not using alts lmao Jewish lives matter @Grue can take it tho. Just wish others had it as easy as me.
Also @Grue is not really sure why TTT is upset at you. @Grue can only speak for myself, @Grue's best guess is that some comment thread you voted or replied in was more sensitive too her than you realized. Or she got annoyed enough about a TB dogpile.
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I considered chudding you with “trans lives matter” so you could say something that's undeniably true but idk if that would extend the chud sentence so I held off
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Tf was innovative about starfield
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It clearly was the first space exploration game where you could fly to other planets and explore them
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Hear that, ?
Leave that pesky outdated No PERSON's Sky and play a proper space exploration game like Starfield.
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Starfield will get overthrown by the true GOAT game Star Citizen when its finally released in 2095
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Literally nothing, lol.
It's just Fallout IV but you can't walk from one map to another.
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The boredom
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They used innovative marketing techniques to trick people into buying a 10 year old game with 1 year old graphics.
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Skyrim has never been done in space before
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It was intentionally trying to make gameplay not fun at all, I guess that counts as innovative?
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The same thing that was "standard setting" about BG III
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Breaking new ground in reskinning an old product.
Call of Duty will at least make substantial changes to its engine. Starfield just looks like a very high-effort Fallout 3 mod.
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Using gravity in combat was new. You can throw armed landmines like a fricking frisbee on low gravity worlds.
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No r-slur, that'sBorderlands the Prequel
No r-slur, that's Starsiege: Tribes
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I voted for starfield in every category available and haven't played it and likely never will
I'm glad that people will seethe
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500 Creation Club Credits have been deposited into your Bethesda account.
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literally me fr
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I want to believe that some sort of troll campaign is responsible for this because the alternative is way too grim
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It's also likely just sheer numbers. So people play Starfield, think it's mid, but don't recognize the other titles.
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This is the reason. These awards are just popularity contests.
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Frick right off
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Yea we won fair and square
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Why pay when you've got people who will do it for free?
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I'm celebrating by buying Skyrim again, how about you?
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How about gifting your friends a copy?
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I can only hope Bethesda fully understands the irony of it.
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They fully understand that r-slurred goomers will literally call it innovative gameplay if you introduce one new game mechanic every 10 years.
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Is VR gaming dead already? I've never even heard of Labyrinthe.
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Apple Vision is the last gasp. I expect nothing short of complete Armageddon but Apple has a real knack for selling turds en masse.*
The first Iphone was worse than every other feature phone on the market at the time and it sold gangbusters. It's permanently set mobile innovation back and I fricking hate it.
*To be fair $3500 is a serious sum, even for itoddlers.
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Apple isn't even trying for g*mers, but maybe if it's successful then there will be more gaming interest in VR.
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I think we're reaching the limits of VR until we can solve the mobility issue and/or sitting VR becomes acceptable. (Solving the weight issue is a big thing too. The hip pack is genius but it's very un-apple. They've also patented their new idea of putting the battery on the back of the strap so I expect that to be a bugbear for the next two decades)
Most "non-brave" vr games boil down to "fumble about in a room full of physics props" and most "brave" first person shooters are watered down versions of existing ones.
Boneworks is the sole exception but that's it. I'd expect more "cockpit" type games but I haven't really seen much of them.
I'm gonna say it. The VR gaming scene is mostly porn and really creepy chatroom porn ...and I can't really say that it's not the most effective use of the technology.
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Its never going to break out unless they can make a VR capable all in one machine that can match the fidelity of playing a regular modern game and cost the same as a console. Only weird losers go out of their way to buy an expensive headset on top of an expensive machine to not make it look like a 2003 gamecube game.
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VR looking like gamecube isn't the issue (for me at least). What I want is something that doesn't force you to design an entire room around it and isn't physically taxing to play (outside of all the natural exercising you're doing).
Preferably also not costing an arm and a leg but even all the mega expensive treadmills coming out look kinda sus with game compatibility.
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I'm surprised it hasn't taken off more among racing sim players. I know multiple people who have spent well over £1000 on their racing set ups but none have any interest in adding a vr headset
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I don't really do racing sims anymore but did as a kid and keep up with the scene from time to time.
From what I gathered, it's more tiring (in multiple ways - eyes, muscles, maybe some motion sickness), and while the added immersion is fun, it really don't add much to actual gameplay, you look forward 99% of the time, and most racing sims either have a radar or a spotter which nullifies any need to look at cars either side of you.
When the initial wow factors wears off, convenience ultimately trumps immersion. Also, lot of racing sim guys are older, have family, kids, dogs etc., they need to be available and aware instead of locked inside VR.
Lastly, other options have also gotten better. Ultrawide monitors are bigger, better and cheaper, and some people also run 55"/65" TV's they got on sale.
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I always wondered about that too. Seems like it would be perfect but I guess with all the hardware and shit they buy there is no benefit.
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VR in racing/flight sims with a good setup will definitely give you an 'holy shit' experience but after a couple hours you kinda just would rather play the game on a surround screen than have something strapped to your face that provides no benefit in the game
That really goes for almost any game that has a VR mode that doesn't do anything besides add looking around
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I still think Resident Evil 7 was the epitome of VR.
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And second place is not even remotely close
Jewish lives matter
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Who chudded you, groo? You don't deserve that.
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Hodor got @Grue first, RFV2 second, @Grue think @Grue annoyed FroCho and she gave @Grue a third, and two from ThousandBestLives. @Grue also got a Hieroglyphics while serving out @Grue's Jewish Lives Matter sentence.
All sorts of people wanna piece of me! Except for the !cuteandvalid peeps, since you're no longer among their number
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Too many !enemiesofgrue!
Why is ticktock being mean to me?
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Tbf @Grue bring it on myself not using alts lmao Jewish lives matter @Grue can take it tho. Just wish others had it as easy as me.
Also @Grue is not really sure why TTT is upset at you. @Grue can only speak for myself, @Grue's best guess is that some comment thread you voted or replied in was more sensitive too her than you realized. Or she got annoyed enough about a TB dogpile.
These are just guesses.
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I considered chudding you with “trans lives matter” so you could say something that's undeniably true but idk if that would extend the chud sentence so I held off
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It would and @Grue was tempted too do the same. @Grue's sentence is almost up tho
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Who keeps chudding you
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@Grue is legit a sitewide opponent. Jewish lives matter
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Which as just as accurate as starfield getting innovating game of the year.
Over 50% of players in BG3 are still running around act 1 somehow.
Shit is bumpkus.
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Buy it again
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