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Very low hanging fruit - a compilation of recent DotA2 Steam forum seethe

The DotA2 steam forums are constantly full of G*mers seething about the behaviour score system. They just don't understand why they're being rated negatively by literally everyone they play with.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/4039231510646910396

dear valve, can u let us focus on gameplay rather than behavior score? i really need to win, i realy need to communicate with my team, u made dota2 players more toxic and tilted, they are ready to report now, they also may report everyone in start of the match, u need to know that the MMR system is enough, u don't need to another system like Behavior Score to setup and find the match players. even my commends are not calculating for months, thanks to your corrupt BS system, my BS is only decreasing because the commends are freezed somehow..

https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/4039231510649359927

Let's show valve how the BS system is broken. just report every single one who uses valve's any communication cowtools, however people are already doing this, even worse, some of them reporting everyone in start of the match... valve is not even tells us how the system works ! the details. what is dislike? what if some1 mutes u? are these effective on ur BS ? what if u get reported because of reporter's bad feelings? and why my new commends are not counting for atleast 3months? and thanks for that, my BS is half now. Let's show valve that "Mute button" is enough, that "MMR" is enough, no need to "BS System". it must be deleted and let us focus on the GAMEPLAY. or valve can just delete that "Mute button" and send us back to school to improve our behavior.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/3825299737961511194

everyone who is under 6k bh score just reports their entire team every game for any reason cause they are angry they are muted now. without resetting the bh score this whole thing is rigged. inb4 redditors come in and say working and intended "how do you even get to sub 10k score" etc, not realizing some people were auto sent to 1 bh score.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/4039230498614984999

I'm often not chatting during games but I keep losing communication score. The unlimited ability to report seems to allow for abuse.

Is there no way for valve to only allow loss of communication score when you are actually chatting/using microphone? I didn't say a thing in the past few games and I'm down hundreds in communication.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/4039231510647664975

The system is designed to shadow-ban it has nothing to do with your personal conduct. This is something a lot of redditors and try-hard players will try to gaslamp you about because they (those who throw games and want less casual play in DotA 2. are the people who benefit the most.

You can't get out of hidden pools; they have players that are moderators who will ensure you stay in. There are also farms of unverified smurf accounts that will mass report if you are 'suspiciously' raising your behvaior score. Similar to how there are automated ways to detect MMR-boosting, there are also ways to detect behaviour score increases that the dev team deems unacceptable.

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>reporting all of your teammates while you wait for the game to begin

:#marseyretardchad:

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Average dotard

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>Be me, carry player :marseylegioncommander:

>Waiting to pick my hero, but I don't want to pick first and get countered all day

>Supports refuse to pick first

>End up picking carry first because I'm not losing precious gold to my idiot teammates

>Lane support tard last-picks Nature's Prophet support (he will be buying right-click items and absolutely nothing else)

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>ults to your lane after you die to last hit

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>misses the sprout on dude that killed me

>tries to chase; overextends (but i repeat myself)

>gets hard CC'd by the enemy team and immediately dies

>me watching my creep wave die under tower:

https://media.giphy.com/media/dXXgF8s3y4T3omMPCa/giphy.webp

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i've never played dota and im thankful for that.

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:#marseyreportmaxxer2:

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There is an actual flaw with the system where I think toxic players themselves are more likely to report people. I've lost a lot of behavior for calling out buttholes.

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:marseyreportmaxxer3: :marseymanysuchcases:


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America is authoritarian in government and fascist in Wall Street, who runs the economic model. You'd laugh if I told you that you live under fascism and authoritarianism and you'd probably flee to freer countries.

Corporations collectively decide who to hire, what to pay, what to raise wages by, how to exploit and trample on their employees, what the education, experience, age requirements are, whether are not you deserve benefits, how safe and ergonomic is your working environment, how much of your wages to steal or unpaid work, how long you work, how long is your vacation, how much workload, how much to verbally abuse you and etc.

Modern classical economists have said wall street, corporations and small businesses are like mini governments and anything except physical abuse goes. Wall street is political donor class so government becomes authoritarian (aka taking or reducing your rights) and introducing neo-liberal (pro-wall street) polices. Buddy, nazis may have killed the jews but the 1% will steal your labour, slave you away, and these days lead to an untimely death (slow death by a thousand cuts).

But I need a car, a house, a vacation, home time, enough for healthy food, retirement, medical, student debt, marriage, kids, hobbies, miscellaneous expenses. Wall street will say you poor bastard and import another one or lock you up if you try resisting. Would you flee if you're not the established class already?

In history people have killed the tyrants or left. Those who stay are dumb farm animals for them to thrive on and hopefully they reproduce and stay blinded by debt and servitude with materialism, sense of "american dream 9-5 duty", credit addiction and internet/electronics addiction (aka stockholm syndrome). There is really no precedent to this turbo-techno capitalism system we're facing.

Why did this happen? They went off gold, so that's why it feels money feels like coins in an arcade. It wouldn't be possible otherwise because it would destroy the currency internationally to print so much. America had 80% of the worlds gold after ww2 and had the opportunity say to every country, starting now US dollars replace gold and are not backed by it.

Snapshots:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/4039231510646910396:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/4039231510649359927:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/3825299737961511194:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/4039230498614984999:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/4039231510647664975:

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Got sent up the river last weekend with a 4-hour ban and 1 game of Low Priority. :marseyunamused: Why? No fricking clue. Didn't abandon, didn't rage, didn't even type to my team. I guess me taking an extra few seconds to piss after I died and respawned triggered somebody into thinking I was AFK? Valve tends to never tell you the infraction, just gives you the punishment and tells you to deal with it. Which is kinda chad :gigachad2: but this instance really confused me; then I realized the behavior score algo recently changed.

After that nonsense, I've decided to just mute everyone going forward and just communicate with pings and chat wheel emotes instead. If Valve wants to throw me into low prio still, I'll find another game. Not gonna be playing this tune much longer if that's how valve wants to conduct it.

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