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  • hop : rdrama should tell us their secret for how they got the chuds to accept pronouns.

:marseysowsmug: Pronouns can devastate small indie games in today's climate—and Steam isn't doing enough to help. Our (unfortunate) experience :marseyreapcrying:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1eyp53g/pronouns_can_devastate_small_indie_games_in/

								

								

We're a small team of three who recently released our first game after five years of development and a $0 budget. Feedback has been overwhelmingly positive, and I'm super proud of that, but there's a stressful hurdle that's causing us lots of pain.

Our game features a character encyclopaedia of NPCs, and among the numerous details listed, like height and dislikes, are pronouns. This single decision has had a purely negative effect on our game.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17243487317916577.webp

  • We were placed on "Woke Alert" curator lists before release, attracting negative attention.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17243487305668476.webp

  • A long Steam Discussion thread attacking pronouns devolved into transphobic rants and was linked from 4chan as a justification for pirating our game.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17243487311851673.webp

  • A guide was posted on how to hex edit our game to remove pronouns], with offensive replacements.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17243487313915122.webp

  • Our game is called "woke" in Youtube comments and Groomercord channels.

  • Negative reviews protest the inclusion of pronouns despite enjoying the game otherwise (Example 1, Example 2 ). The oldest remains a month later, despite being reported to Steam. These reviews have dropped our rating from what would have been 96% to 94%, below the 95% threshold for "overwhelmingly positive" when we hit 500 reviews.

  • The encyclopedia is purely optional fluff; practically speaking, we'd actually benefit if it (and its tens of thousands of words) were never written, which is a shame because we loved making it.

All this for simply including pronouns in an in-game encyclopedia.

It's not just us. Fellow indie Arco recently faced a Steam user threatened buying, refunding, and negatively refunding the game over perceived "wokeness". Multiple comments assure the devs that Steam would quickly remove such reviews. Is this the general perception of how Steam handles this kind of thing? Based on our experience, I don't have a lot of confidence in that. That's what pushed me to make this thread and start a dialogue about it.

AAA games can outpace this kind of attention; indie devs can't. In an algorithmic world where every bit of feedback has a huge impact, the fact that protest reviews mask the actual reception of our game is extremely frustrating and disheartening, and it feels like Steam doesn't have our back.

Discussion points:

  • What should Steam be doing about activist reviews?

  • How can small indie teams protect themselves from this, without self-censoring?

We're lucky our game found some success, but any small game risks being buried by an angry mob before it gets any momentum of its own. The current climate forces indie devs to choose between inclusivity and financial success. Would we, or other devs, make the same decision today? I'm not sure. And this doesn't even touch on the broader issue of games getting tagged in "Woke Alert" lists just for having female protags or diverse casts.


!chuds !transphobes !g*mers

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>do something customers don't like

>customers don't buy game

:#marseypikachu2:

Instead this r-slur's take aways are:

What should Steam be doing about activist reviews?

Oh now we don't like "activist" reviews huh? Weird.

How can small indie teams protect themselves from this, without self-censoring?

Whining and hoping that someone will ban everyone that disagrees with you I guess.

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Self-censoring isn't a thing chud

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>How can small indie teams protect themselves from this, without self-censoring?

shit neighbor idunno how can i avoid pissing :!marseytrain:s off without self censoring

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What should Steam be doing about activist reviews?

:#soycrytalking:

These people deserve everything they have coming to them, and i guarantee it's not money.

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The year is 2027. All triple A games are vetted by Ugly Manatee LLC. Protagonists are all wh•te m•ids and every major studio has an entire floor of programmers working on jiggle physics.

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https://media.tenor.com/w0cSSjxkAwgAAAAx/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll.webp

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Indeed.

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>people

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Is it still possible to buy games, give them negative reviews, and then get a refund? I want to give these dweebs a 7th negative review

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Sometimes they will still let you refund it after but the policy for steam is within 14 days and less than 2 hours played they will refund your purchase.

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>the pronouns are just a small irrelevant detail, why are they mad :marseycry:

>you're trying to make me self-censor :soycry:

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If the detail is so small, why include it? Its only hurting you. Go on, take it out. I dare you. Or... Are you afraid someone else much worse is on the other side of the fence...

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For real, I don't understand how you can make people think that they're forced to accept your ideals and comply with it. One nice thing about capitalism is you cannot force people to buy things. Even if someone can't voice why they dislike something, they don't have to buy it. Which this r-slur doesn't understand.

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:marseyaaatremble#: this is why they're all commies!

jewish lives matter

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Yeah, the problem here is that leftoids want to be able to cancel rightoid products, but want platforms to protect them from politically-motivated reviews. Sometimes this can be done through anti-hate policies, but most places (reddit exempted) aren't so brainrotted that they consider mere disapprovals of woke shit as hateful. So they demand an even heavier thumb on the scales, which... isn't going to happen.

Live by the mob, die by the mob.

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They want to be able to cancel rightoid products

No they don't. They want to be able to cancel chud products. They view any rightoid as a good and well meaning person who just got fooled by the white nationalists.

They consider mere disapprovals of woke shit as hateful

They do now, the pendulum is swinging. You've noticed it yourself right? All the 2020 type 'anti-hate platforms' have gone quiet and are just getting filled with the old 'hate'.

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