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— Chris Avellone (@ChrisAvellone) August 25, 2024
Annnnd it gets better https://t.co/VXK62fw7uE
— Chris Avellone (@ChrisAvellone) August 25, 2024
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It felt like the game became more critical of capitalism under Bethesda, because it wasn't really until Fo3 where they went completely all in with all the 1950s retro shit. The first two games were way more focused on the new societies that popped up after the bombs fell.
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I hated Bethesda basically killing the idea of progress in the world. No new societies can form, nobody can rebuild, everybody has to live like it's Portland and never contemplate picking up a hammer
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When they try to come up with new things it's not even new societies, just ridiculous institutions like the railroad and the institute in fallout 4.
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i-i-i never understood how fo3 critiques capitalism. i-i-ive played it so much and never got that vibe. u-u-unless it's just 1950 americana b-bad
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Surely this novelty doesn't wear transparent-thin within two comments.
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This is such a Reddit comment.
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No, you're a reddit comment
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Well at least I'm not a chud!
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w-what do you mean??
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It does feel like it's more cynical then anything else. Like if it has taken place in China, it would depict communism the same way.
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None of the Bethesda fallouts critique capitalism. In fact in new Vegas the only soyciety with any quality of life is Mr houses strip which is expressly capitalist coded. Everything else is varying levels of barbarism. And whenever you do come across some nu-soyciety grounded in pluralistic ideals they generally end up being some kind of cult or scam or science experiment.
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Yeah I would say the games plots themselves are not critiques of capitalism, but before the great war, it does seem like corporations like vault-tech essentially did fricked up shit whenever they wanted. Classic "consequences of unfettered capitalism" shit
When redditors think of the game as anti capitalism, I think they're mostly thinking about how America prewar is depicted.
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The NCR is a capitalist usa 2.0, we just don't get to see the territory they have full control over because the mojave is a frontier to them.
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Yeah NCR seems like a corrupt late stage liberal capitalist soyciety whereas the strip seems like a libertarian capitalist soyciety where the market decided Mr House was le ebic benevolent monarch trickle downer
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I do think that Bethesda's written themselves into a corner with how somehow none of the societies they've introduced are able to build society up in any meaningful way, resulting in people just squatting in shitty junktowns +300 years after the bombs fell.
In fallout 1 most villages were newly built. Bit weird.
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the NCR and Institute seemed to be doing okay till you frick it up
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IIRC Todd Howard likes the wasteland/ruined filled aesthetics of the games and that's pretty much why they just depict everything as a wasteland with people living in squalor lol.
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New Vegas isn't Bethesda, it's made by the same people as the first 2 games
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Ok nerd
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exactly r-r-right? the o-only capitalism of d-dc wastelands is the capitalism of s-s-savages because the country t-t-they all grew irradiated in used a fiat currency and left massive e-evidence of it everywhere
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