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Dragon Age Veilguard has peaked for today.
— Grummz (@Grummz) October 31, 2024
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That not what you would expect. It started strong but began tapering early.
We will see if the weekend numbers go higher but I have doubts.
Source: Steam DB pic.twitter.com/r3acJeZzrU
Despite what Grummz says these are okay numbers. They are not good so rightoids feel vindicated, but they aren't bad so leftoids feel vindicated.
The seethe is just not there 
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In comparison.
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Successful triple a peak at around 200k. Viral games at around 2 mil. Factorio is not triple a so this is pretty good for them, but very meh for something with a budget like Veilguard. If you like veilguard I wouldn't be to worried as it'll still be successful enough, and if you hate it it will not make enough waves to cause issues.
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Silent hill 2 peaked at 23,676
Metaphor peaked at 85,961
Sonic x Shadow peaked at 7,894
All 3 of these games sold 1 million copies in 1 week (or even one day) and were a success. Yeah they didn't do Wukong numbers but not every game has the benefit of China (looking at player charts the peaks were during hours when everyone would be asleep in the west). The only games i can think of which peaked at over 2 million concurrent players were wukong and palworld. Elden Ring peaked at around 964k, Witcher 3 at 103,329, among us (which is the largest casual viral multiplayer hit in recent memory) at 447,476. Counter strike 2 peaked at 1.8 million. Dota 2 at 1.2 million.
For a single player western RPG (which is already a niche genre with this game getting limited advertising and hype) 70k opening launch run is fine. Its not a runaway hit but its not a total flop. If it wasnt some ff15 tier dev heck money pit it will likely make money.
!g*mers steam stats for context.
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This is some wild butt revisionism
Game had more hype and advertising than all three of those games combined, like 10 years of reveal teasers and tie-in material. And you're going to call single player western RPGs niche? In a post skyrim world, when a western Crpg won game of the year laster year? Neighbor you are fricking insane.
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Look at the player numbers. Balders gate 3 has a peak steam player count of 875,343. Cs2 has 1.8 million. Shooters are more popular then RPGs. Im not a dragon age fan so idk about the lead in. Ill just say i never heard of this game until the drama. Whereas i was spammed with endless ads for SMTV and metaphor.
Dragon age just does not have the clout it used too sorry. My point isnt that Veilguard is a sucess on par with balders gate 3 its that its not a flop. Its player numbers are tracking as well as other successful triple A games along side it so unless it has a crazy high budget (idk how with how hideous it looks) it will likely make a profit ergo making it not a concord level flop.
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The writing of the game seems cringey but the /v/ campaign to sink this game failed. You're arguing with someone who doesn't care about numbers, he just saw a stupid bit of dialogue and needs the game to be a failure.
The lesson to be learned here is woke shit will not cause a game to be a failure by itself. Concord didn't fail because it was showcasing a black trans woman, it failed because it was $40 trying to compete with the free Overwatch
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The numbers say that a AA new IP with a much smaller budget is better than it
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ok
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The ones that cannibalize some preexisting popular IP usually have okay sales at least for a while. It's much harder to create something new that's woke from the start, those almost always fail.
A lot of consoomers buy the new iteration of DA because they liked the previous ones. If they're turned off by the sensitivity training play and lack of C&C, the damage to the IP only becomes apparent in future iterations. But there is no incentive for CEOs or creative directors or other corpo bigshots to care about that. Nobody can prove today that what they're doing will end up harming their company ten years down the line, and by then they'll be long gone.
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And sports games are more popular than shooters, doesn't make shooters niche, and doesn't make western RPGs, which jave been in a renaissance since skyrim, niche either.
Almost every teaser trailer for Dragon Age over a million views Metaphor and SMTV both only have 1 trailer to get over a million views. You not hearing about it is a short coming on your part, which makes this statement;
Sourced straight from your butt
2/3 of the games you compared it to are not triple A games, neighbor what the frick. Not only that it doesn't even have half the players The First Descendant, a free to play korean titty game, did on launch.
Easily 3x the budget Metaphor had, at the least, and that's not factoring in advertising and the 3 revisions it went through during development.
Concord is probably the biggest media flop in human history, nothing is going to be on its level anytime soon. It was also a new IP, those are more likely to flop. Established IPs like Dragon Age don't flop as hard as new ones, but having a lower player count than some Atlus rehash, when you had 10 years, dozens of books & comics, a board game, and a netflix series is firmly in the flop zone.
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Dude... it's Steam you're looking at. BG3 is out on PS and XBox, CS is not, neither is DOTA. Yeah shooters are more popular on PC, no shit, what sort of zoomer r-slur uses a controller in an FPS?
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Err... When was Inquisition released?
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W3 is like, over a decade old. As the platform grows you'd think they would hit higher numbers more often.
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Tbh I wonder about that because this game was in off an on development for years
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another serving of nothing burger then?
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These numbers go up over time and 200k is what games like the recent space marine made
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Thats a live service multiplayer game. This is doing almost as well as atlus's recent jrpg which was a massive sales success already. Live service multiplayer game based a popular media franchise in the shooter genre is going to have more concurrent players then a solo RPG (a more niche genre then shooters) with the Dragon Age brand being pretty dead. There hasn't been a game in the while and there was little hype or advertising for this one. Game is still utterly terrible but the fact it's tracking around a tentpole triple A JRPG which was in dev heck for years signals thats it's probably gonna do fine sales wise.
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The multiplayer in warhammer sucked, it was mostly a singleplayer game. And Metaphor probably had half the budget of DA and is less known then DA
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Metaphor has been in dev since persona 5 vanilla and is made by one of the biggest jp devs and likely a goty contender lol. To ppl my age atlus is a way bigger name then bioware. Idk anyone who gives a shit about dragon age and only a few who care about mass effecf.
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Metaphor isn't persona and persona isn't that popular outside of weebs
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Grandpa gen z is all weeb losers lol
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DA demo is millenials so this is perfect
Atlus isnt big, Persona specifically is big looking at you SMT4
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veilguard will definitely sell a million copies.
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also factorio is a couple years old
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It just had a new expansion launch though
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I remember all the dragon age games past origin also going pretty Meh like this so this seems par for the franchise.
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It almost matched the peak for another autism game!
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Solo science nerd dev vs EA team of
s funded bajillion dollars.
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New DLC that is fire but that game has been out for like 8 years lmao
Pretty sure factorio hit it's all time high around 105k like 2 days ago which is dope because that game deserves all the love
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factorio is basically just distributed systems programming... gamified
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Space Marine 2 peaked at over 100k and has the same player count.
https://steamcharts.com/app/2183900
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Honestly I expect this to do okay. Wokey games can do fine if the game is good. BG3 was extremely gay. Had super in your face gay relationships and it felt like you were always a single sus dialogue choice away from experiencing the fantastical world of gay s*x when hanging out with companions.
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It was gay but not preachy, it didn't lecture you on how pronouns work
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There's a world of difference between gay and zippertits.
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All cute twinkry to me
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It can always get worse.
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It always does
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True, although my brother and I were on the hunt for a single straight gnome by the end of the game. Felt like the gay stuff was massively over represented,
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Yes, it really hit if you got into minor background characters. They were all gay.
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Yeah I didn't mind it, it was a solid game.
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ahhh if only life was that good
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You could be gay if you wanted but it was very not in your face. You could also be hella racist. Also, it was really fun to play.
This game doesn't look fun to play.
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My 2 complaints on bg3 were autosave did not trigger enough and all the gay shit but still 10/10.
Veilguard smothers you in gay shit and the gameplay looks like a dumbed down diablo, an already very simple game.
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Name 5
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The big one was that cleric chick and the demigod like halfway through the game. All the same s*x companions hit on you and a lot of the random NPCs end up being gay. But for in your face it was really just the cleric and demigod. (Plus the companions if you hung out with everyone like you would normally do in these types of games)
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Only Gale, Wyll, and Halsin do that and that may have been a glitch(?), they also do it regardlessof your character's. Not even Atarion hits on you unprompted.
Most of the companions are implied to be straight, shart might be bi. Don't know where you're getting that.
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I mean someone can correct me if i'm wrong but every companion will hit on your at some point and it's regardless of your s*x. You can have the relationship with almost every companion and it doesn't matter if you're male or female.
It's stupid and even for a fantasy setting completely unrealistic; however everything else about the game is so good nobody really cared that everyone was impossibly bi. Also there's no insane lectures about pronouns at any point in the game i'm aware of. Veilguard on the other hand took one of the few likeable companions from DA2 and gave her some incomprehensible vomit inducing dialog to preach to the player for a few minutes.
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That's wrong. Shart, Karlach, Astarion do not hit on you unless you hit on them.
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So they basically take the SR4 approach then
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Is there four of them?!
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yes, but it wasn't sensitivity training for kids.
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I don't think there's enough legitimate outrage over having literal
s in games.
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It's definitely going
to do at least ok, considering how popular Inquisition was despite 
its own issues
personally im boycotting the game not because i actually
give a shit about any of this gay drama 
but because i hate that they very clearly leaned in way too hard into the quirky 
comical friendly type of game, where 
what i really 
just want is ANY major 
studio to make a game that takes itself just a bit more fricking 
seriously 
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We so lost. They spend 60 dollars on a straggy game. We are so owned.
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$70 +tip +cosmetic pack + season pass
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It's a disappointing aaa title. Nothing more, nothing less.
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People are always so obsessed with sales figures and reviews but we all know the median customer is a slop enthusiast so I don't really know why anyone thinks it matters
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i didn't buy the game, i won
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It has 9k more players than Baldurs gate does now on its launch date…
I genuinely don't understand what is and isn't a success in gaming it seems
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It depends entirely on the budget. These numbers definitely don't mean anything incredible for a studio of their size, but they're likely not in total flop territory either. If I had to guess, they're probably above margins but not nearly as much as they'd like to be comfortable. Doubtless they'll call this a win to own the chuds though.
I'd expect review scores to follow the same trend that Starfield did though. A lot of people celebrate day 1 review scores being mostly positive, despite the fact that they obviously haven't had any real time invested into the game to develop an informed opinion yet. Judging by the godawful tone and dialogue, coupled with the overly preachy gay shit and mediocre combat, the reviews after a month likely won't be anywhere near as favourable. I'd expect people to double down on polarized positions because of the culture war stuff and for there to be no meaningful consensus.
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I'm always surprised by how well Dragon Age games do. Based on how people talk about them I always assumed Mass Effect was way more popular but it's the complete opposite even though Origins seems to be the only one people can agree is actually good
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Its more popular with foids
and you can tell thats who theyve shifted to be their main audience how r-slurred 
the writing 
has become.
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oof
not like I care, never played bioslop games
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Already down 10%, there's still hope
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55K now
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Oof
For comparison, Baldur's Gay 3 peaked at near 900k and didn't get under 100k until march this year, 6 months after release
Just last sunday it had more than 100k players
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I am willing to bet 25% of these are chud streamers playing the game to farm rage engagement
And the other 50% are mildly chud streaming the game for cringe engagement
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I dont think
these are good numbers. Starfield was a new ip and had 5 times the numbers.
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giant nothing burger then..
future will depend on sales numbers which may be ok but peaking at 70k is not anything amazballs so idk.
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It's Halloween
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Who
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Looks like drama loses
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what a cute twink
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Its Joever?
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