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AN ARGUMENT AGAINST VIOLENT UPRISING

Surely no one these days would contest the notion that the rich are a parasitic and obsolete elite functioning only to drain our society at a crucial turning point in our history.

At previous times the death of the rich and their children would be a foregone conclusion at the hands of a starving angry mob. One can understand the natural impetus for such a course of action, as of a river overflowing its banks and sweeping away all in its path, without agreeing with the moral implications or endorsing violence.

But make no mistake: the rich, who are entrusted with the wealth of the nation, have squandered it. And a balance must be paid, not in cash.

Therefore as a more sensible and civilized alternative to the anger which simmers quietly despite the best efforts of the rich to remove it from the public square -- I have maintained a collection, it's not hard to see the taboo broken if you watch carefully -- let us suggest the following theory of capitalism and its relation to the State.

:#marseythinkorino:

Capitalism is the application of money-as-energy to the activity of the nation-state. The Baby Boomer generation was engaged in an ideological conflict with a purportedly anti-capitalist polity, and the trauma of this conflict locked them in an ideological death spiral. Unable to conceive of any reform to the functioning of the United States as anything other than Marxism or Communism, they became beholden to ideas of fair markets, fair play, and corporate freedom to such a bizarre and extreme extent that they became unable to recognize the collapse of their society into a mirror of the Communist dictatorships: the elite formed a Party which constituted an oligarchy.

Now oligarchy is not without its benefits. Some amount of centralized decision-making authority is necessary for the State to function.

But for the same reason that the Media is always necessarily an appendage of the State (because the Media must report on what People desire to hear and Americans never met a war they didn't like), Capital is also an extension of the State. When Capital becomes divorced from this essential function, it believes that it controls the country when it has merely been entrusted with decision-making authority over some portion of its resources.

If they make bad decisions their decision-making authority should and must be revoked.

Formally this comes as a seizure of their assets. Anyone with more than 10 million in assets simply shouldn't have it anymore.

The alternative is war upon the rich. Not because we want it, but because it's simply in the nature of the mass human beast. I do not advocate for violence simply by observing its inevitability.

What does the government do with those assets once they've been seized? A variety of redistributive measures may be considered, but I merely ask you to agree to the necessity of the seizure.

Remember, the State doesn't have to be fair. The State must employ the fact of its violence strategically to solve the problems faced by the People who, in a Democratic Republic, constitute its purpose.

YOUR RICHES DO NOT BELONG TO YOU

YOU ARE BUT A MANIFESTATION OF THE NEEDS OF THE STATE

AND IF YOU FAIL TO MEET THOSE NEEDS

YOUR RICHES SHOULD BE STRIPPED FROM YOU.

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But it was the state suggesting that the banks should extend loans to as many people as possible because more home ownership looks great for politicians. How would you set up a state so it doesn't end up turning the market into a goddarn casino?

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Once you know you can't trust the current players, you shouldn't indulge argument against new leadership. "How would you set up a state so it doesn't end up turning the market into a casino" is a good question for after we have re-established the State's control over Capital.

You don't need to worry about every step, just the one in front of you. A new generation debating new economic policy will produce better results than the present situation.

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We've seen how state control can result in immense human misery. No point in overthrowing everything at massive cost if you're just exchanging one regime of oppression for another, no?

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the wave of resentment and anger at elites capitalized by Trump in 2016 is a harbinger of things to come. the state controls economic function either way. in 1776 we exchanged a regime of monarchic oppression for a republican form of oppression which included slavery, but don't tell me you want to go back to the era of kings like a chucklefrick substack blogger.

you can't avoid making a decision out of the fear of making a decision. man up, the decision is coming.

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You're not a commie are you? What would you have us do?

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fulfill the promise of capitalism by resetting the market to a fair state and beginning a 'new round.' alternatively turn over all executive corporate positions to AI and prohibit more than 4% ownership of one company by one individual or corporation.

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Oh so you are just completely living in a fantasy realm. Got it.

Imagine being so distrustful of your fellow humans you would rather allow a computer to make your decisions for you.

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computers are already making most of our decisions dude lmao what the frick kind of naive fantasy realm are you living in jesus

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Lol computers might make some of our decisions but a real fricking man makes his own decisions. You obviously don't know shit about the real world.

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>the state controls economic function either way

So why would even more state control be the answer? How would it not turn into a brutally inefficient and brutally corrupt Soviet Union 2.0? I'm ready to start minecrafting everybody above me on the wealth distribution but I do need some idea of how it would actually improve things.

Also I think the MAGA discontent is, in the end, about things far beyond the control of politics. Manufacturing is gone and will stay gone. Resources are expensive to exploit. Colonies or vassal states that would murder thousands of their own people in service of cheap bananas are not going to return.

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Why would anyone want the state to control capital? Like, that's a really bad idea

Just leave it to the rich. They are far more trustworthy

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dude no they're not, they act in short-sighted self-interest. the state is capital you moron. god you're illiterate.

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>they act in short-sighted self-interest

Like I said: trustworthy

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to be great you must think long term dipshit

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Execute state employees who encourage the appearance of prosperity instead of the real thing

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But how do you measure that? People started distrusting metrics like GDP or median income, so home ownership came into focus.

>When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.

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You can leave it up to me to decide, I have an eye for these things

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I'm all in favor of murdering state employees so I'll trust you on this one. :marseythumbsup:

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