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bit of autism whispering

I am an autism whisperer: I understand human socialization effortlessly but I also have a literal mind so neurodivergent people love me because I can tend to articulate the principle they're missing.

Some autism chauvinists like @sirpingsalot theorize that if they could get a bunch of autists in one place and convince them of something they'd be I dunno super powerful acting in concert or something. What they don't get is that this is also just true of normal people. The act of convincing a person is the same whether or not they're neurodivergent. Logical arguments work on people who are logical. Emotional arguments work on people who are emotional.

So it's batshit deluded to think that neurodivergent effluvia online is somehow superior to normie shit. Mostly y'all need a place to violate the taboos and violating the taboos is good practice but don't let that delude you into thinking you're powerful instead of just crippling your message for normies. (Don't fricking complain about being misunderstood ever. The message received is the one that matters, not what you think you said.)

I'm on board for: this is neurodiversity, brilliant and exciting differences between people. Neurodivergent chauvinism is fricked up though. Like people who are missing a sense claiming to see more than others. It falls down pretty hard.

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Your fallacy is assuming that autists are more logical than other people. This is false. Autists are just worse at seeing the illogical component of their beliefs. They place high value on deciding things for logical reasons, even though they in fact they make decisions emotionally like everyone else. The advantage is that they can be more easily deluded, if you can convince them of something emotionally, while making them believe they came up with it logically. This doesn't work for a normal person, because normies know their beliefs are emotional, so they closely guard their emotions to avoid being mislead. Only an autist thinks they can get into arguments and always come out on top, because "knowledge brings freedom".

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Interesting. I can see what you mean. TBH I don't actually have a lot of direct experience with autists just a few where I was explicitly thanked at length for my insight.

That and the frickers at TheMotte.

They place high value on deciding things for logical reasons, even though they in fact they make decisions emotionally like everyone else.

At Themotte I saw a lot of this.

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I'm not neurodivergent though, I'm sociopathic. I just pretend to be an aspie because the filthy normies discriminate against people like me just because we don't believe in the same moronic hugbox bullshit that they do. And frankly, that is a superpower.

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I think you're LARPing sociopathic personally

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Honestly, I don't know. I am a huge fan of revenge, and I don't believe in forgiveness at all. When somebody hurts me, I don't feel good about myself until I've managed to hurt them back, or destroyed somebody/something that they love.

So I could be really nice to people who are nice to me, or I could be a total monster to people who are mean to me. Much like many rdrama users, I suppose.

Is that sociopathy, or LARPing? Ultimately, who cares? Categories were made for man, not the other way around.

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oh maybe you are that kind of inferior mind then idk. like seriously? take the fricking Christpill loser

revenge is just spiritual sickness. I'm not saying roll over when someone wrongs you, but if you make your life a zero-sum game you will live in a zero-sum game and just suffer.

It's not that hard. but maybe you are that dumb.

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You say I should be less judgemental, but then why are you the kind of butthole who believes in forcing your values onto me, and tries to shame me for having different beliefs? It really seems to me like you don't practice what you preach, so why should I practice what you preach? Especially when you try to force your beliefs upon me with social shaming? That's not the kind of thing a nice tolerant person would do. So why should I tolerate your values when you won't tolerate mine?

Of course, your hypocrisy is common to many people who push the forgiveness pill. When somebody wrongs you, these filth are like "Oh, forgiveness is the best way to make yourself feel better about it." But when they are the ones who were wronged, do they forgive? Of course not, because their value system is not for them, only for other people. It's not designed for justice, it's designed for short-term social stability.

Furthermore, it's stupid to forgive somebody unless they feel genuine remorse. If you forgive somebody and they're not even sorry that they wronged you, then you're just being a chump. And how do we objectively define genuine remorse? Remorse is when somebody feels bad enough about their actions that they willingly accept the punishment for them. Like if somebody accidentally cut off my hand, they need to feel bad enough to cut off their own hand so that they know what it feels like to put themselves in my shoes. Until they do, I am allowed to hurt them in any way imaginable until they willingly accept the punishment for their sins. For example, if I retaliated by torturing you until you willingly chopped off your hand to earn my forgiveness, that's not a problem with me - that's entirely on you. I'm still going to heaven because all my vengeful actions were taken to force you to correct your wrongdoing. If you were a genuinely good person, I wouldn't have to hurt you to force you to abide by the "tit for tat" principle: instead, you would hurt yourself willingly to show that you empathize with me and are willing to share my suffering, in order to earn forgiveness. I wouldn't need to hurt you to force you to empathize with me because you would choose to do so of your own free will. But very few people in life actually demonstrate this kind of commitment to their principles. Most people in life are NPCs, soulless husks whose only true goal is to optimize their success and wealth. Principles are just a mask that they wear for the sake of virtue signalling.

In life, you'll meet all sorts of pathetic scum who think they can wrong you and are entitled to forgiveness, but very few people who are willing to earn it through atonement. Instead, most people just take the path of least resistance and say or do anything that they think will get them out of trouble. People want to be let off the hook after a quick apology, and that's not the way it's supposed to work. The process of atonement should be painful, and in your atonement you should experience at least as much suffering as your wrongdoing caused to others. That's why it's very important to make people who resist punishment suffer even more than they would have if they had just accepted their rightful punishment in the first place. It's not just about revenge: their pain is an important part of shaping them into better human beings who will be more careful in the future and willingly take accountability for their own mistakes instead of having to be forced into it. So it's not really that I don't believe in forgiveness, just that I meet very few people who deserve forgiveness, and are willing to prove it through their actions.

I'm sorry that you're the kind of moronic filth that lacks a well-constructed moral compass and instead babbles stupid platitudes about forgiveness, without even understanding rationally when forgiveness is appropriate or what purpose it serves from a game-theory perspective. It must be terrible to have a poorly-defined morality that makes no logical sense and is pretty much just "something somebody told you once" without even questioning or analyzing the logic of your beliefs more thoroughly. Why are you like this? Could you at least try to do better? It's absolutely disgusting how you assume that your morality is correct before even hearing the opposite perspective - especially since your morality isn't correct and is both evil and misguided.

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That's not the kind of thing a nice tolerant person would do.

I don't know how to say this exactly, but I AM AN BUTTHOLE ONLINE. I'm here to express disdain and disgust for opinions I think are bad. I'm not really all that nice a person, at least when I'm here! I'm pretty ok with that.

I'm sorry that you're the kind of moronic filth that lacks a well-constructed moral compass

dude you literally just said you always take revenge on people, why do you think your moral compass is well constructed, why do you think that pointing to moral high ground has any relevance here

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why do you think your moral compass is well constructed, why do you think that pointing to moral high ground has any relevance here

Because my moral compass may not always be nice but it is extremely consistent. A moral compass that doesn't consistently point in the same direction regardless of which "side" did what is a garbage moral compass.

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consistency isn't a virtue if being consistent prevents you from being kind.

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It only prevents me from being kind to people who don't deserve kindness. If people don't frick with me, I've got absolutely no problem with them. But when people do frick around, I'm generally a pretty firm believer in forcing them to find out.

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