InterGONEvention going/gone  2yr ago (x.com) 1,226 thread views #111374

Attention dramanauts who use Paypal.

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Hmmm.

What a profoundly odd decision. This seems like it's clearly done for reasons other than profit, and isn't that actually illegal?

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Yeah the courts don't usually let people enforce a contract that says "I reserve the right to take some or all of the money in your account whenever you do something vague that I don't like". You can't just write whatever the frick you want in your terms and conditions.

"Paypal reserves the right to take possession of your house, your car, and your dog if you post wrong think on the internet while using the service."

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Yep. Contracts is supposed to be in good faith and clear.

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Ya but fiduciary duty to the shareholders is more what I'm thinking. Like if you're a corporation you can't just do shit because you think it'll be better for society or whatever, you have to increase profit for the shareholders or you're breaching fiduciary duty and they can sue you. I can't see an angle where this patently unreasonable policy that's already pissing people off increases profit for the shareholders. It seems designed solely to advance political or ideological aims.

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I just had to fill out a "vendor survey" for one of my bigger clients. They're a multi billion dollar company and I'm literally no one to them, but since I'm on their vendor list they kept sending me the survey with more and more urgent language and exclamation points on the emails and all that because I wasn't filling it out.

I start filling this fricking thing out and it's all standard at the beginning. "Does the business qualify as a small business under federal blah blah"? "Is the business a Minority Owned Business"? The usual. Then the other usual ones - "Does the business maintain written policies for the protection of sensitive personal information"? We don't, but if someone asked to see it I guess I'd just send them some boilerplate off google or whatever.

Then "Does the business maintain written policies for diversity, equity, and inclusion?" and "Does the business maintain written policies to protect against discrimination?" Again, I don't but I also don't discriminate, so that's fine, I just said yes.

Then finally I started marking all the rest of their questions no because they kept getting dumber. Like asking me if I have a written policy for sourcing tin, tungsten, gold, and diamonds from conflict free sources, and whether I have a policy for offsetting carbon emissions, and for pursuing environmental and social causes as part of my corporate mission. I just checked no on all of them and didn't elaborate, like motherlover I write software what the frick are you talking about?

This is the direction some "people" think the future of "fiduciary responsibility" is going to go, that instead of maximizing profits, you're going to fulfill your duty by scoring brownie points with everyone for all your awesome work in equity and environmentalism, and companies are already jumping the gun assuming the laws will change at some point. But while the dumb company I'm working for is just going to put my answers in a database and not do anything with it until AFTER the laws change (which they probably never will) Paypal is going to change everything right now and get sued by everyone, apparently.

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>not minemaxxing

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:marseysleep: :marseywut2::marseyminer:

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look im gunna have 2 ask u 2 keep ur giant dumps in the potty not in my replys 😷😷😷

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You can't just write whatever the frick you want in your terms and conditions.

um I am quite sure youcan, what ever ur rightoid mind thinks does not make it true

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there are lots of unenforceable t&c out there but they're also allowed to keep existing so idk

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I think it is just about what you can prove a "reasonable" person would be able to understand and have agency to consider. If u target corps or even just corp-like persons, I doubt they could use r-sluration as a defense, as a normal person does in case of unenforcable.

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