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Men who belonged to unions their entire career made up to $1.3 million more on average than men who never joined one, according to new research.
Those belonging to unions made about $3.4 million from ages 20 to 64, compared to $2.1 million for those who were never union members. Cornell University's Industrial and Labor Relations (ILR) Review published the findings.
The study analyzed data from the Panel Study of Income Dynamics (PSID) from 1969 through 2019. The men studied had to be no older than 25 between 1969 and 1973.
The sample consists only of men because women earners are categorized as "spouse" in the PSID, and data on spouses only began being collected consistently in 1979, the researchers said.
Researchers calculated career earnings using total years employed, mean hours worked per year, and the mean hourly wage.
Men with no college degree who have been in a union at least half their career had expected earnings of $1.96 million by age 65, while those with no college degree who have never been in a union or been in one less than half of their career have projected earnings of about $1.5 million.
Inversely, people with college degrees who have been in a union for more than half their careers made less ($2.16 million) than those with college degrees who have never been in a union ($2.67 million), "likely because of the association of union membership and occupations worked," the study says.
Though, across the board, belonging to a union was associated with an increased probability of retiring at or before age 65.
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/13/1128626243/unions-career-earnings-study
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This is why unions are bad. That million dollars per man gets passed onto the consumer, and unions are 100% a violation of an employer’s right to monitor what goes on between his employees. Employees absolutely do not have a right to conspire together to ruin the business outside of work, which is exactly what a union is. Unions may increase the quality of work, but they usually don’t. Unions are absolutely a violation of the employer’s rights to have and pay employees what he will. Letting your employees dictate their own salary is insane. Jail time for union organizers.
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What lol it’s in the spirit of capitalism if you wanna keep your workers raise your wages richstrag
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Why should the employer have to provide raises? They are entitled to workers, the workers are entitled to just compensation. They are not entitled to more compensation just because market forces favored the business and made it more profitable. They’re workers. They aren’t entitled to capital. The employer is responsible for paying them, the workers are responsible for working. Nowhere in this arrangement are raises discussed, again, the employer is entitled to their labor. They should not be allowed to hop from job to job like they do. It’s bad for the employer and the employees alike. They should have to sign ten year contracts that the employer alone can terminate.
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