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Guide to surviving the feds from a successful defendant-appellant and survivor of at least 63 investigations

I've been harassed and investigated by the feds over several nationally covered trolls as well as numerous side enterprises. They got so frustrated that they eventually falsely charged me with a crime, which I was able to challenge and successfully overturn in the courts on appeal. I am not here to tell you how to do some sovereign citizen shit. You should talk to an attorney immediately. But know that there are some things an attorney cannot tell you which I can. For example, an attorney cannot tell you to intentionally evade summons. It is against the ethics rules for an attorney, and will result in him losing his law license. But there's nothing illegal about taking a vacation at an opportune time. An attorney just can't tell you to do so. I'm here to tell you how to do additional things to make the FBI's job hard that an attorney can't tell you to do.

First thing you need to do prepare is device management -- first thing is to stop the usage of your normal devices -- phones, laptops -- and usual internet accounts. Put them in storage offsite that you pay for in cash. It is also good to give them to an attorney, or finally a trusted friend. Then you need two devices: one device capable of recording video and a burner phone to call for help. Let them dangle by wrist straps when you leave your house because feds love accosting you on your way to work, at your office, or while you are ordering food (the first time the FBI accosted me was at a Subway in Oregon state while I was traveling to do volunteer work collecting food donations for needy families).

The second thing you should do, if possible, is get out of the immediate vicinity of your current location. Your first line of protection is to leave the state. Most authorities operate in state specific offices and to cross a state line makes it require more resources to manage your persecution. The second line of protection is court circuit -- similarly, federal agents in the same court district generally work in the same set of facilities and have close relationships. There's a fifth as many court circuits as states so if you can manage to cross multiple states and go on vacation in another court circuit you're adding the amount of resources that they have to expend to even get to the first step with you. Finally, if you can spend some time in another country, that's even better. If you don't have a job, in the winter it is easy as an English speaker to get work as a tour guide in Latin America. Show your ID as few places as possible and just take a break from things. Don't fly until you are south of Mexico -- all the airports before then have close relationships with the feds. Take the bus. People who cannot be found cannot be interviewed and cannot be served investigation-related process. This makes things extremely difficult for any agents that would want to harm you.

The first thing you need to do when physically confronted with the feds is immediately begin recording. You don't know your state's recording laws so your first words when the recording starts is "I am recording this interaction. If you don't consent to this recording you should leave immediately" (this is to get around any issues with any states that require all parties to be informed for a recording to be made". Having a recording is critical because the feds have a policy of not recording interviews at all. Everything in the interview that they have will be written in a post-interview report. If they are really desperate to nail you, they can write whatever claim they want about what you supposedly said in the written report and it is your word against the FBI agent's in the court. People have been convicted of perjury for their record of a conversation differing from the FBI agent's written report. It's up for 12 r-slurs to decide your fate if you don't have proof. Their goal in harassing you is to solicit statements that would prove criminal intent for things like 18 U.S. Code § 1512 (c) (2) -- "otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding". They know your goal was to make people on reddit upset and make jovial fun-loving people laugh but if they can claim that your goal was to influence or derail proceedings and cause a mistrial they can nail you. If they can't get that statement from you, they might claim to have gotten it in the report.

Immediately the second thing you should do is ask "are you armed?" If they say yes say "show me your guns." If they refuse to answer or refuse to show their guns say "how can I be sure you are real agents if you don't even have guns?" At this point you should say "I want an attorney. Please leave." and say nothing else to the FBI. DO NOT PROVIDE THEM YOUR NAME WHEN ASKED -- THIS JUST LETS THEM CONFIRM WHERE YOU LIVE FOR A WARRANT. But also DO NOT GIVE A FAKE NAME -- LYING TO A FEDERAL AGENT IS A CRIME. It is of the absolute critical importance that you not try to have a reasonable conversation and explain anything to these people. No statement of fact about the case will help you. It will only hurt you. There's a pretty famous lecture on YouTube titled "Never talk to police" by a defense attorney and I recommend that you watch it.

Walk a bit of a distance from your door or wherever you are standing and use your call for help device to call the police. Claim that there are strange people outside who claim to be cops but won't provide reasonable evidence that they're anything other than gun toting maniacs. Say that you know it is official policy that they inform local police before operating in a jurisdiction (this is true, but feds never actually do so) and haven't provided a warrant or any process. Say you believe that they are impersonating law enforcement agents. If they showed you guns, claim that they have shown you guns (don't lie at any point of course). Say that you are afraid for your safety and need an immediate response. If you are VERY VERY lucky the cops will get tased. At the very least you will see them secured in handcuffs for a bit, and then they will be tied up with local police for a while.

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I cannot believe the extent to which dramanauts are pooping their pants right now

It's honestly pathetic

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if anyone should be pooping their pants it should be me, and my pants are as clean as the day i bought them

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It's win/win. Either nothing happens or you become the first arrested dramanaut for dramaposting

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i will shout out rdrama.net, and if i am on trial in my closing arguments i will name all of my followers

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Followed

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It would be imperative that dramatards infiltrate the jury of your trial to nullify it lmao

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I'll put some money on your books so you can buy ramen and other items you can trade for bussy protection.

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And the cycle starts all over again. Pottery

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Don't forget to mention bardfinn he was the mastermind of the whole operation.

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I WILL SUE FOR 1 MILLION DRAMACOIN IF I AM NOT MENTIONED IN YOUR TRIAL!

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(From a homeless guy)

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my pants are as clean as the day i bought them

Do you buy preshit pants or do you just shit in them on the first day?

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No journos got contacted right?

:#marseyveryworriedfed:

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there's like 5 articles already and at least one has namedropped rdrama

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Not like that. You know what I mean. Contacted with intent. Did you see original post here?

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Lol from an alt protonmail account I contacted some shitnews sites before it blew up, surprisingly I didn't get any responses

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Atheists will tell you that the divine cannot protect you from skidmarks in your jean shorts without the Devil's underwear, but they are wrong.

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Like off a hobo?

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it's kinda funny tbh

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:marseyinvestigate: i see only memes buddy. You sure you can tell?

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dramacels are literally MELTING DOWN!!! How will they ever recover????

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You only see memes because you don't see all the posts getting deleted lol

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So by "dramanauts freaking out" you mean just carp cleaning up fedposting then

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Nobody is pooping their pants here just pretending to lmao

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:#marseyseethe:

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Lol it's very dramatic though.

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Idk why anyone but the person who posted would be pooping their pants even. Its absolutely hilarious what that poster did and I truly don't think there is any trouble they can get in. They made an anonymous internet post that can be easily disproven as fake.

Tldr: stop being kitties and thinking your gonna get in trouble.

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If they showed you guns, claim that they have shown you guns (don't lie at any point of course). Say that you are afraid for your safety and need an immediate response. If you are VERY VERY lucky the cops will get tased. At the very least you will see them secured in handcuffs for a bit, and then they will be tied up with local police for a while.

That's pretty hilarious, but has this ever actually happened? Does that even work?

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Here's a video example. It is one of the best things you will ever watch.

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ATF agent tased

Hahaha, the best alphabet agency that could happen to, too

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THIS IS FOR WACO YOU GODDARNED BASTARDS

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Don't forget Ruby Ridge, either...

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Or the time they put wires on literal downies.

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that's kinda a funny bit tho ngl

SECRET AGENT TARD

SECRET AGENT TARD

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this fricking rules hahahahaha

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Holy shit, this is glorious.

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:#marseycantsneed:

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He even said the magic words and they still tased and arrested him

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They should make a special setting on tasers for ATF agents that makes it more unnecessarily painful.


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Awesome. NO ONE likes the ATF.

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This is one of my favorite videos of all time.

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I've seen this video a few times now and it never fails to make me laugh

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Man local police suck for a number of reasons but good on these dudes for bagging a stepper. I am amazed they didn't light him the frick up when he reached for his leg after telling them he had a gun

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>Man local police suck for a number of reasons

:marseyconfused:

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Comparing the ATF to the FBI is like comparing the national guard to the army. (Though the national guard are no way as r-slured as the ATF.) There's no way the FBI would show up with only one man and act any where near as stupid.

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I actually have a personal anecdote. When I was a kid we had a few family friends who were part of the FBI. One time I had them over for dinner and I asked them if they had any stories they could tell. They didn’t have much they said they could share, but they did tell us of a story of where they were chasing down some silver smugglers down the freeway, when they were stopped by the police for speeding. They didn’t have time to tell the police about it, they needed to get to them before the deal was made, so they had to end up driving from the police, turning the chase into a double decker one, with the police chasing the FBI chasing the smugglers. Don’t think it’s too relevant though, it happened a while ago and was a spur of the moment chase. Just thought it’d be cool to share. :marseyembrace:

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That's pretty based, sounds like a good end scene for a movie.:#marseysteer:

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The FBI, like all federal agencies, cut a ton of staff during the Trump years, and then even more during the COVID purge. They have filled the seats with many less desirable, seasoned, and disciplined workers. The demographics are rapidly shifting, and you don't know what they will do.

Regardless, using the local police to shoo away federal agents from your doorstep is good policy, even if they do not happen to get cuffed or tazed. That saves you the trouble from having to interact with them, and gives a third party with more authority to tell them to quit trespassing.

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Fair point.

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How come the police didn’t give time for the ATF agent to respond?

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well, if you were a cop and had the chance to taze an ATF agent, legally, wouldn't you?

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Good point but at that point they didn’t he was a federal agent or not, much less which agency he belonged to, just that there may or may not have been someone impersonating federal law enforcement.

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If you could potentially taze any federal law enforcement, legally, wouldn't you

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Yeah it happened to two ATF agents because they were being r-slurred to local LE

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probably not

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That's pretty hilarious, but has this ever actually happened?

Some local PD once tased an ATF agent.

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This has already been posted

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It's worth being posted twice, it's that good.

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:#marseyarmy:

WE SALUTE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO DRAMA

#justice4darrell #darrellwalks #walkaway

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Interesting, do you know if they would try to contact your past employers to get info on you

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Yes. They will contact everyone that they can find that you have ever been involved with. Current and former employers, girlfriends, family members.

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>Current and former employers, girlfriends, family members.

we safe

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if @weev said they were contacting our current and former boyfriends that's a completely different story though

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yeah sorry for assuming your gender and sexuality

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I just looked for 10 minutes and failed to find that 4chan greentext about the guy with no social media presence being investigated and the investigators finding it incomprehensible that he doesn't have a Facebook


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King:marseykingcrown:


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darn thats crazy lol

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Ah yes, former family members :marseyemo:

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for those wanting a link to the mentioned video about not talking to police if you're into that

and apparently there's a part 2 although i haven't watched it

also please see the currently pinned posts from user @arsey

https://rdrama.net/post/116844/

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This won’t work. Soren will hunt us all down personally.

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I am a federal agent? News to me

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What did you think that salary was for?

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Good bot

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Vivaldi

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I'm not sure if you are a Dane or a Swede, but both are just as bad as being a fed

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Neither? I am not germanic.

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okay sorry to misethnicize you, I assumed from the name Søren that you were

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