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God I fricking hate redditors peepeeriding Popper and the paradox of tolerance so fricking much
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Especially because they get it wrong.
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Literally the next paragraph contradicts the Reddit Interpretation of the paradox. It's just so emblematic of how lazy and uninformed redditors are.
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Got a link Iβve never read it
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Literally the wikipedia page. The part redditors quote is in bold:
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Where is the contradiction?
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The contradiction is that redditors use (the first part of) this passage to justify why people with badthink must not be allowed to express their opinions and why all argument with them must be denounced pre-emptively. I.E. they're exhibiting the exact behaviour which Popper said is not justified and must not be tolerated.
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Yes, but when do you define the boundary for when you can counter someone with rational logic? And when are you no longer keeping them in check by public opinion? Conspiracy theorists are an example of people who are impenetrable to rational thought and would therefore meet the criteria set by his "rule" especially given the now widespread prevalence of these beliefs resulting in negative real-world harm, such as antivax conspiracy theorists resulting in the reemergence of numerous previously controlled infections (I'm not even talking about Covid-19). I don't see any contradiction, but you would be free to disagree as to when that line should be drawn.
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The criterion isn't "am I successfully countering this idea with my arguments", the criterion is "are the people I disagree with engaging in rational argument". In other words, the only condition under which you're allowed to dispense with argument and resort to force is if your opponents have resorted to force first.
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They do, it's so funny.
Redditors: karl pooper said if you let people freely exchange ideas they will inevitably conclude nazism is the way to go
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They make it sound like Nazism is the right choice and superior idea.
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Yeah, you're only supposed to not tolerate it when the other side resorts to violence. Which isn't a huge philosophical take. Beat up people who try to kick your butt. Wow so fricking brilliant.
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Everything is violence when "mental health" is seen as this tangible part of their being. All they have to claim is that you're making them sad and anxious and you're basically assaulting them.
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The way to limit speech is a little bit at a time by associating it with physical aggression
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