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When Americans Lost Faith in the News | The New Yorker

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/02/06/when-americans-lost-faith-in-the-news

Alternative title: The thirstiest auto-fellatio you'll read all year

The author is Louis Menand, a highly educated boomer liberal, a writer, an award winning journ*list who reported on the Cold War.

Indeed, he's seen it all. There's hardly anyone better positioned to write this article. There's hardly anyone left with the breadth and depth of his professional experience.

So why have people lost faith in journ*lism? Perhaps he'll write on the changing approach to journ*lism of the younger professionals. Perhaps he'll write on the thinly veiled activism often disguised as journ*lism. Perhaps he'll talk about cancel culture and social media and how this new invention has parasitized journ*lism.

But unfortunately for you, like many in his category, Drumpf completely and utterly broke him.

Obligatory Drumpf is literally Hitler article.

Let's see what he instead blames for the Inversion of the Trust Thermocline:

Yes I'm being flippant with some of these points, but Louis our dear friend legitimately and unironically made those last two point, straight up.

Thanks Drumpf, we're never going to trustworthy news, are we?

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Jfc bro literally made it two sentences before he decided it was the orange man who destroyed the journos' credibility.

:#marseybudddwyer:

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In a sense he's right- mainstream media was so mindbroken by Trump they decided to shred their credibility in order to attack him.

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They really started shredding their credibility in the 90s culture wars, this was just a more blatant iteration of the same phenomena.

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I remember when that dude, Jason something whatever, got fired from the NYT for plagiarism like 20 years ago and what a big deal it was. If that same shit happened today I think it would just get memory-holed and dude probably wouldn't even lose his job. There's like 3 journos that actually still do their job and aren't just mouthpieces, Glenpai, Bussy, and Taibbi (who weirdly we don't have a cute name for). The rest should go to Leafistan and :marseymaid3:.

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Glennpai has a tendency to believe everything Russia and China says which is a tad disappointing. So I view him has a useful counterweight, but not a reliable sourse in and of himself.

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I think that's fair, I just appreciate he's not part of the hive. It's so blatantly obvious when new firmware goes out and they're all posting the same shit word for word on twitter and then they all write the exact same article but I just have to remember, no bait is too obvious.

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It's so blatantly obvious when new firmware goes out and they're all posting the same shit word for word on twitter

Oh come on, don't pretend that Glennpai and the "libertarian" chud crew don't do the same thing.

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I guess I just don't pay them enough mind to notice. They're libertarians, they sit at the kids table with the anarchists.

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I agree with them regarding intelligence agencies and the "National Security State".

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I did end up taking an L on the Russian invasion but I just immediately go “glowie fake news” whenever I hear a new firmware update about shithole country wars.


Follower of Christ :marseyandjesus: Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.

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t. glennwald derangement syndrome.

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I remember him 20 years ago when he was an extreme-left grifter who hated America and loved Russia. The two things that have been consistent his whole career. Let me know which other based conservative patriots I should be worshipping now. Maybe Jane Fonda?

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Glenn isn't pretending to be any sort of conservative though.

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see above

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Glennpai is good as long as you remember his worldview is "America bad". So he does simp for smelly dictatorships a bit too much.

But Barry O did try to have him abducted and dismembered in a CIA black site for his Snowden reporting, so I give him a pass on a personal level, even if I don't agree with his global politics takes

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Taibi wears hats

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Glenns a funny one as a Brazilian.

During operation carwash he was hated by the right as he exposed one of the main judges involved in op carwash as basically wanting fame and political power.

Nowadays he's hated by the left because he supports freedom of speech and he denounces one of our judges of the supreme court... As wanting fame and political power.

Lefties now say he's a far right figure paid by the CIA (unironically).

Tldr: wingcuckery is r-slurred

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who is Bussy? Jesse Singal?

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I'll never forget two scoops

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I loved the time Washington Post ‘fact checked’ orange man on his claim that he had “burgers stacked a mile high” at a fast food buffet (funny enough on its own) for a college football team that came to the White House.

https://www.barstoolbets.com/blogs/1196337/washington-post-fact-checks-donald-trump-claim-he-piled-hamburgers-a-mile-high-for-clemson

If I fact checked that and called myself a journ*list I’d :marseycontemplatesuicide:

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Matt Taibbi has a great talk on this:

Now back to drama you fcking chodes

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>one hour of a bald talking

but for real now, can you give a quick tldr about the vid?

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Trumps election caused the non-Fox news stations to move from a model attempting to be balanced to actively, obviously and purposefully opposing him. It's financially better for them, and they think there's a moral case for it, too.

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heres a screenshot of trends in media-trust, CLEARLY the downward trend started in 2016 and not anytime before.

![](/images/16754811706929371.webp)

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I do enjoy the precipitous drop among republicans in 2016 though, mirrored by the obscene rise among democrats :marseyxd:

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i like the bump for independants and then a return to trend

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I can understand relying on the media more because you didn’t like cheeto benito and the rethuglicans but how on earth did anyone’s trust in media increase? You’d have to wingcucked to the point of r-sluration to believe them more.

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>Republicans have a steep drop

>Independents have a more steady, but also drop

>Dems have an r-slured high increase

:#marseywrongthonk:

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So all 3 saw a rise in the middle of 2018? What the heck happened?

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i remember things being more chill politically in 2018 for some reason. not 2016 election, not directly post 2016 election, not pre2020 election yet. basically it was the 1 year we get off from this circus.

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Yeah it was sort or a chill vibe back then. The 2020 election season started with the Kavanaugh hearings.

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>open link

>ctrl-f "trump"

>1/13

>close tab

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You need to learn how to interpret elite writing better. The author must mention Trump in the beginning to hook the reader, before pivoting to his actual subject (how the Cold War destroyed trust in journ*lism). So just scroll past the paragraphs that mention Trump

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