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:schopenmarsey: :marseybigbrain: ETHICS DEBATE #3: Now I Am Become Death :marseyoppenheimer: :marseynukegoggles:

Alright, no more discussion of the limits of free trade. Let's talk about technology. I saw a lively debate on here between @TheTroubleWithPibbles, @August, @Geralt_of_Uganda, etc, about whether it is ethical to develop technologies...

Scenario

This, of course, actually happened

J. Robert Oppenheimer was a brilliant scientist.

being so brilliant, he was able to conceive of, and help build, the greatest weapon known to mankind - the atomic bomb.

Oppenheimer, of course, didn't know the long term consequences of developing such a weapon - but he understood the sheer destructive potential of such a device.

Your question is: Was Oppenheimer acting ethically by assisting to develop the atomic bomb?

NOTE: In this hypothetical, history is at a crossroads. You don't know what will happen in the future - whether the device you created will be used to end life on earth or to usher in a new golden age.

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How long did Oppenheimer plan that sweet "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds" line?

2 minutes (i.e., the cover story, it just came to him,) :marseysunglasseson:

2 weeks (he thought it up on the potty near the end) :marseybikechainincident:

2 months (contemplating the project's close, "that would be a pretty sweet thing to say") :marseymacarthur::marseynukegoggles::marseyoppenheimer::marseymushroomcloud:

2 years :marseymischevious:

Chat GPT buys Oppenheimer's bullshit.

How long do you think Oppenheimer planned to say "I am death, the destroyer of worlds" to seem cool?

It is likely that Oppenheimer did not plan to say the phrase at all. He was reportedly quoting a line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita, as he witnessed the first successful atomic bomb test in 1945. He was expressing his mixed feelings of awe and horror at the destructive power of nuclear weapons.

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Two weeks

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It is a pretty sweet quote.

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Isn't a more accurate translation something along the lines of "I am time, that which makes death of all things?"

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That's a much cooler quote in general and a much more r-slurred one in this specific context

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Well glad someone fixed it for him if that's the case.

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He also misquoted the line, which is I have become time, the destroyer of worlds.

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