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Okay, here's the thing about Lord of the Rings. It was boring. Didn't make it past the first movie, but did past the first book. So spoilers: it was boring. It was dumb shit that you can pretend is just really cool fantasy shit or is "muh WWI allegory" or whatever but it just isn't entertaining. No context makes it deep, innovative, or entertaining. Fantasy writers of the future ripping it off doesn't speak to the genre's depth, it is hard evidence of it's shallow commercialization. Like great, you just copied some Englishman copying some myths that some extensively more creative tradition of storytellers had passed to him. Good job "writer".
please consider my OC for a snappy quote. Fantasy is literally a bs genre.
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You apparently have the attention span of a twitter user.
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I almost always agree with you, but nah, that book was boring. A history prof made me read it for a Modern Europe course, and I thought it would be the more fun text of that class. Bismark bio > Storm of Steel > Textbook > Mein Kampf> LotR book 1 > Whatever economic text I wrote a paper on that semester.
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I don't know what to tell you about this. Tolkien is widely considered a world class writer, regardless of the story just the writing part, even if you're bored by "capeshit" it is on a higher scale of literature than anything else.
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We might just be a gulf apart on this mate, but Tolkien sucks at writing characters, meaning or reason. He obviously influenced a genre to the point where he is the basis or focal point or whatever. So I get calling him the big cheese of the fantasy world even if I don't into it.
Read Infinite Jest, IDK? That's my suggestion I read your guy
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I'll do that just as soon as I'm finished with Marienbad My Love
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frick you, I read IJ and unironically liked that. I'll need proof to actually read that above all the books literati have told me to which are also junk.
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I was making a failed attempt at a joke you missed.
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Dude I've wanted to like lor. I like the story of Tolkien, I think it's cool he was friends with Lewis, I've like reading theories and synopsis of the books. It's cool that his stories and worlds are so intricate and deep. But the books and movies are just so darn BORING! I fell asleep during the second movie in theaters. Even going through the Hobbit was a struggle. I've gone through some very long books that others find boring, but Tolkien just put me to sleep. I want to appreciate it, I want to like it, but I just can't.
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I'm pretty much at the same point as you. I've accepted people really need to be of a certain mind to dedicate 50+++ hours to a book or other series. I really like Dan Simon's Ilium/Olympos books. They're fun and confusing and worldbuilding and the author really wants you to like Shakespeare and Proust, which I don't that much, but he made a story far more engaging than Tolkien ever did for me, so I like it more. I like it. But I don't insist that everyone else think it's somehow timeless and amazing and untouchable (because it isn't)
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Never really like fantasy that much so that's probably the reason.
Another dramanaught posted an excerpt from a the Walker Percy novel The Moviegoer a few weeks ago that I liked. I picked up the book and have really enjoyed it. Going to read at least one more of his as soon as I finish this one
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Are you fricking with me?
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Dude, Moviegoer is one of my favorite books. Like I went throught the time 100 best american novels list, and that one isn't even in print as far as I can telll. LIt.
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Found it on Amazon for pretty cheap. You like anything else by Percy?
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If you are talking about worldwide defence systems production and technology, I think my 25+ years trumps YOUR experience and EXPERTISE.
I've DESIGNED and CODED a 65,000+ objects per second 10,000 fps autonomous vision recognition system attached to a very high-powered 160,000 KMH (i.e. 100,000 mph) super-cavitating linear induction coil Rods-from-God gun system that can FULLY autonomously find, recognize, differentiate, track, hunt, target and do fire-control from a database of 200,000 different types and classes of vehicles, vessels, submersibles, weapons, planes, spacecraft, terrain, buildings, animals, people, etc.
With 22,000 LBS (11 TONNES!) of kinetic energy PER ROUND at 6000 rounds per minute, it can dig a trench 500 kilometres long, 400 metres+ wide and up to 200 metres deep in less than half an hour! (we also UPPED its original level of firepower!)
Ergo, it can DIG ACROSS A VERY NICE CANAL through the ENTIRE Korean DMZ in barely 30 mins! It can ALSO OBLITERATE FROM THE SKY multiple 30,000 kmh DF-21, SS47, D5 Trident ICBMs, and 10,000 kmh Hypersonic Moskvets, Sunburns and Falcon-X missiles even IF they do close-in sudden last-second evasive maneuvering!
The weapons I DESIGN are made for an enemy FAAAAAR WORSE than any current set of human armed forces, sooooooooo, I think MY long-term expertise in actual real-world large-scale offensive and defensive military weapons system design and manufacture QUITE outstrips your expertise and/or experience!
In terms of narcotics, may I suggest multiple shots of Asbach Uralt German Brandy with your liverwurst pate on toasted very dark rye bread! I find that QUITE REFRESHING in terms of clearing the mind of clutter!
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