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Whey are they so afraid of talking to people that they disagree with? Don’t they see it as an opportunity to persuade misguided conservative students so see the light?
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It's not about being afraid to talk to them, it's that reasoning with an actual fascist movement is wildly r-slurred.
And yes, I don't care what any r-slur le drama centrist thinks, by every understanding of fascism the Trumptard movement is fascist.
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You have never seen a fascist in your life
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Or a vagina
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I dunno, he strikes me as the kind of weirdo that would have open eyes during his own birth.
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Oh God yeah, just wide open and calm. Full of understanding.
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Wait, you’re not OP
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That's a good thing though.
#bussysuperiority
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I do love poorly educated drama users with no idea what fascism even is trying to downplay what Trumptards are.
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He's lived through the fall of Lordaeron and The Black Citadel
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subject matter expert: cryptofascism
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Subject Matter Expert: Postmodern Hate Networks like Rdrama.net
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You have no idea what you're talking about
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Except I do.
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What are your credentials?
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Show me on the doll where the fascist touched you son
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In my soul daddy 🥺
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The word fascist has lost all meaning
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No, I'm actually strictly basing my understanding of why they're fascist on Robert Paxton's anatomy of fascism, a book specifically written to fix bad definitions.
Let me say this again - by literally every understanding of the fascist standard are American Trumptards proto-fascists.
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Okay sure, I don't disagree, but if engagement is useless, what's the alternative? Seems like what the left is doing now is only feeding the fascist's need for victimhood. The only successful deradicalization I'm aware of is engagement.
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someday they’ll just admit they want to kill them all. I’ll have a lot more respect for them when they do.
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It really seems that way. There's no other alternative, right? I'm being 100% serious.
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For real, it's confusing. I like to think that if I genuinely believed what they say they do, I'd being fedposting irl. Everyone who said the U.S. border camps were the new Holocaust weren't making everyone else look like Nazis for allegedly not knowing what was going on, but were admitting that they'd be the complacent ones that they were railing against.
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Someday? Where have you been?
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I wish I had a meme that went something like this, except it'd be "all fascists are nazis, a HS drop outs understanding of political ideology."
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Why are you being so hysterical? Do you need a vibrator?
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He doesn't.
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It had lost all meaning by 1946. Seriously, there was an article or something published still in the '40s complaining that the term had become nothing but a generic political slur with no actual meaning behind it. If you had to write a dictionary definition for it, you'd have to write something like "person with political positions I heavily disagree with", because that's the only consistent way it's used.
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@Aevann Pizza's account has been hacked, please get in touch with him, the hacker is posting some r-slurred shit like this
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In what way does the Trumptard base not meet the fascist standard?
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@Aevann also check this user @crat this user is stalking pizza's account, upvotes every post by pizza within mere seconds
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Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy
dictatorial power = where drumpf was never a dicator
forcible suppression of opposition = democrats won in 2020 sweaty
strong regimentation of society and of the economy = check the stock market
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No see @pizzashill is using the exact same definition of fascism that the rest of the left uses: 'Anyone committing wrongthink that I disagree with'
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upcoining pizza is good manners
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Well, for one, the core, fundamental notion of fascism is that the state stands above everything else, be it family, religion, race, anything. It is a totalitarian ideology first and foremost. For another, the economic system of fascism is, as it's social policy, totalitarian: the market exists only so far as it serves the state, and while it may appear nominally capitalist, the state can and does intervene decisively and directly in the decisions of market players. China's system, basically.
American rightoids are absolutely not the-state-above-all types, and are very much free market types. I'm sorry, but the glove doesn't fit. They're authoritarian conservatives, but fascism is more specific than that.
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Amerirights are libertarian-leaning in general. Sure you got your authy types, but the fundamental ideology is very nosteppysnek, government fek ov, etc. They're anything but fascist.
Also, Trump had every opportunity and justification to use the insurrection act during the 2020 BLM riots and he didn't. It actually pissed off his authier fanbase. The man is a lot of things (idiot, narcissist, fricking hilarious, etc), but he's not a fascist.
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My god man you people have no clue whatr you are talking about.
No, it is not a fundamental notion of fascism before fascists obtain power. Fascism is primarily a set of emotional traits and national mood - the stuff you're talking about comes after.
The Trumptard base is fundamentally authoritarian and in favor of government authoritarianism, as long as it targets the right people. Rather than adherence to the state, fascists primarily operate via cult of personality and said cult serves as the avatar of the nation, the people.
Hannah Arendt, on totalitarianism:
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And my point is you have no idea what fascism is. Fascism, again, is a set of emotional traits, a national mood, with a completely fluid set of goals until they obtain power.
You're also again, confusing the idea of the state with the idea of the nation and the people. Trumptards are absolutely hyper-nationalists that believe the nation comes above all else and any action is justified in defense of the nation and the ideas they associate with the nation.
And Trump - as their avatar of the nation, has absolute loyalty from them. When he speaks, they listen. His core base will believe anything he says, do anything he tells them to do.
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I'd quote some Mussolini at you but why bother, you'd just say he doesn't know what fascism is either.
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You could quote him if you'd like, here let me do it for you:
This is what II mean, fascism is not a doctrine.
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Fascism not having a stated, formal doctrine or program doesn't mean it has no hallmarks beside being "a feeling" (LOL).
That idea, or "feeling" if it makes you happy, doesn't sit well with American rightoids in general, nor even Trump's fanclub. They want their strongman leader, sure, but they don't want a big , "all-embracing" state.
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Isnt that burden of proof kinda on you? Never mind i don’t wanna read the essaypost explaining why making fun of CNN is fashyzm
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I wish
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Daryl Davis talked 200 members of the KKK into hanging up their robes, you daft c*nt. Talking works.
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That's amazing, the KKK is not a fascist movement, they're just right-wing social conservative racists.
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Lol ur dumb
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Because it's way harder to actually address the arguments that someone is making in ways that are likely to be persuasive to them than it is to just strawmen them as fundamentally immune to reason and being beneath your efforts.
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