It reminds me of Howard Stern’s question to me. ‘Tell me, governor, what happens to us when we die?’ I said, ‘Nothing. You’re 6 feet under. Anyone that tells you something else is a f—ing liar.’
I said, ‘We don’t know what happens with the soul and all this spiritual stuff that I’m not an expert in, but I know that the body as we see each other now, we will never see each other again like that.
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The former California Gov. said he had lost about 15 friends from back in his bodybuilding days in the last two decades and the tragic reality of our finite time on earth forced him to shift his perspective on the possibility of an afterlife.
“When people talk about, ‘I will see them again in heaven,’ it sounds so good, but the reality is that we won’t see each other again after we’re gone. That’s the sad part. I know people feel comfortable with death, but I don’t,'” he said.
Do note that Arnie never said anything about Jesus or Christians, he just said he doesn't believe in heaven.
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FOOL!! You "seek the guidance of a higher power" BUT REFUSE to BELIEVE IN THE SCRIPTURES!!! WHO MADE the HUMAN BODY? You were an "accident"? The brain? All an accident? The eye?? All an accident? The right amount of oxygen for humans to breathe in the atmosphere? All an accident?? Earth rotates around sun at best distance from it. All an accident?? Where is the person with 3 eyes or 2 noses or ears in front, if evolution is random?????? Does not exist!!!!! GET YOUR HEAD ON STRAIGHT.
You're at Judgement Day and there's Pelosi, kneeling at the left-hand side of the Lorde, whispering in his ear.
You ok?
How is spending eternity with your relatives you couldn't stand to be around on Thanksgiving Heaven? rofl. Think about it. Or praising Jesus for a zillion years every day? yeah real fun.
you've never been truly loved, have you? but you can have that experience with your Creator. It is up to you though
Could you please work out your daddy issues in private, peepeey? Could you please stop taking out your hatred for him on God? Thanks.
If you bothered to read more, you'd know that is simply not a fact. Though believe what you want! :) The only people stopping you are the nutjob Lefties, Woketards, and Communists. (uh...btw...I'm a staunch Conservative...and I don't believe there is a god)
You may have some conservative views, but you are not a conservative. You just displayed the fact you have nothing to conserve, Cheung. And there are at LEAST twelve historical figures who wrote about Jesus' life and work. Were they ALL lying, and YOU are the one telling the truth? Not ONE honest historian still denies the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth, knucklehead. There is simply too much evidence to deny that.
Also the Bible has predicted perfectly what has taken shape here in America and around the world on text that are over 2,000 years old.
It must have been such a miserable life for Arnold pretending to be a Republican while living like a Democrat. Democrats bring you misery.
While he lives there still remains hope for him.
Living a full life, experiences and faith have displayed to me there is a God, there is life after death and eternity in either Heaven or Heck. Choose wisely because there is no do-overs
Perhaps you should choose better. You follow a false god. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes when you stand before the gods. Why take the chance? Because wow if you are wrong you will be tormented by the gods for all eternity.
The closest I can come to believing in heck is listening to a democrat.
"There is no afterlife and “anyone that tells you something else is a f—ing liar.” You know who else said this? HITLER!
and billions of others with shedloads of common sense
So Hitler has common sense, just like you?
And now we see him for the proud elitist socialist he really is. They believe in nothing and neither should anyone else. Hope doesn't exist, now shut up and suffer, peasants.
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The saddest words that will be heard (over and over again) on Judgement Day: “But Lord, I THOUGHT…” They “thought.” They “thought” God didn’t exist, nor Heaven, nor Heck. They “thought” that things that their conscience clearly told them were wrong, were right. They “thought” that science had all of the answers. They “thought” they could be their own god…
Next: Arnold declares himself to be God. Because, to be able to assert 100% certainty that there is no Heaven, no Heck, and no God, you would have to be, well… God. Think about it for a moment…
"Donald Trump on Wednesday proudly quoted a messenger who said he was “the second coming of God,” and he described himself as “the chosen one,” looking up at the sky."
Anything the WP says, I automatically take with a grain of salt, given their track record for CIA inspired BS. Anyway, IF he said it
, he’s wrong too. The job of Supreme Deity is already filled, and He can’t be fired from the position…
There's a video of him saying it on that link I gave. Nice quote about the Deity!
He’s also known to say things like that to troll the media that he knows hates him. The same way rockstars say completely outlandish things sometimes, when they’re messing with or annoyed by an interviewer…
Drumpf is the AntiChrist.
i hope thats true, i can be happy never seeing or hearing from you forever. why cant you start now arnold and do us all a favor.
wow. you want this man to not exist because you disagree with him on some trivial issue? wow
Since when did Herr Muscle Brain fashion himself a philosopher and theologian?
and when he is in heck just 1 second begging for a drop of water it will be too late eternity is for ever.
Yes & AMEN
any proof of claim you idiot ?
TURN or BURN
I got a good chuckle out of that exchange 
Funny though how they worship lucifer who was created by GOD! But there's nothing after
He is free to believe what he likes, he will get dose of reality when he dies, just like every other naysayer that has ever lived
Sorry, “belief” is not evidence.
talk to people that deal with the dying and the dead... they'll give you plenty of evidence.
No such evidence exists. Try again.
the fact you only choose to listen to those you already agree with is the height of ignorance. talking to someone who has experienced something so earth shattering as to change absolutely everything about themselves overnight is more than just evidence... it's proof, imo. takes months to years to brainwash someone into believing something... now explain how one experience can change a person instantly... I'll wait
Sorry, it’s your claim that evidence come from the “dead and dying” and “…he will get a dose of reality when he dies.” The burden of proof is on your shoulders to support your claim with verifiable, independent, objective evidence. Otherwise, you’re just deceived by your own confirmation bias. I can wait.
I see you're a typical lefty dingleberry that lies to make their case... care to not lie, and try again, becky?
needs to move to a deserted island with Greata A life ill spent, he is hoping for oblivion.
Imagine the conversations between those two. Makes my skin crawl. Arnie: I’m here to pump you up. Greta: How dare you?!?
Boomer 
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Arnold is a product of commie hollywood so no one would expect him to believe in The Lord, Jesus Christ, GOD. Arnold's actions during his life show that he is a dark path kind of guy.
He doesn't know but he knows? Arnold is confused, he might have the Biden Flu.
The bible is a fantasy book and certainly teaches you some positive emotions and thoughts but thats about it. Its like a bed time book story.
Boy are you going to be surprised. I applaud your bravery. God will not be mocked.
Arnold Schwarzenegger..........FAILED TO HIDE HIS NAZI OVERTONES!!!
He’s correct. Define death please. I’m waiting…
You define death since you believe there is no afterlife. I’m waiting…
Nobody knows with certainty and anybody claiming they know the truth is a fool. For all we know there can be some third option nobody ever mentioned that happens
World-renowned theologian Justin has spoken. And the kid has decided once and for all that we can't know. We should just give up. With that amount of certainty in his uncertainty, who are WE to disagree???
Oblivion awaits us all..Deal with it!
Only if your a democrat!
The rest of the comments are just fundie 
that boil down to "Say Christ is king right now!" 
or "If God isn't real then how come my church says otherwise?" 
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Kitty heaven is real I’ll see my baby in the afterlife the roided r*tard can go frick himself
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We all know hes not going to go to heaven anyway
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Being a*strian guarantee you a place in heck.
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He was a little Satan but I’m going to heck too so
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He looks like shit lately. Old men really should not try to do the stubble beard thing. It's iffy enough when yourya young Chad, but on the elderly it makes them look like hobos.
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Reddit tier comment upmarseyd too the top of the thread by reddit tier dramatards
Many such cases
trans lives matter
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He’s in kitty heaven you r-slur
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I won’t be back
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only funny response
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Governor sleeps with cleaning lady and has secret son. Wife sneed ensues.
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How's the lovechild doing anyway? Does he keep in touch with ol' pops?
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He looks exactly like his dad and is a bodybuilder now. He rules.
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He looks like a Mexican Arnold and isn't half as genetically gifted as his dad.
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Look up his non-bastard kids though.
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Wow, daring today, aren’t we? Also your post was way too fricking long, ironic given it’s about the finitude of life
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Let's be clear - nobody knows, but we can make guesses you know... based in reality.
The idea of life after death seems a little too convenient. Like it came into being specifically due to an animal being smart enough to understand death while at the same time being unable to accept.
Terror management.
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You have it completely butt-backwards. The endless heck of samsara is much more existentially terrifying. Complete nonexistance sounds comfy af. The fact of the matter is that the reason human societies have an afterlife as a cultural universal is because a large number of people in every possible culture throughout all of human history have had experiences with it. Post-Enlightenment-Era Soyentist-type neckbeards denying reincarnation and the law of karma is like children denying that timeout exists. You aren't going to escape the consequences of your actions just because it makes your deluded consciousness feel warm and fuzzy inside.
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Is this satire lol? The idea of heck serves an important purpose - to coerce the non-believer into compliance with the delusion.
Ask yourself this - why do you think religions tend to react so violently to non-believers? Why all the murder and genocide? Afterall, those non-believers are totally darned to hellfire, so what's the problem?
Because they're a threat. There can be no doubt about religion because then the entire terror managment system collapses.
This isn't even gettingn into compensatory control, another convient purpose religion just so happens to serve.
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I didn't even realize you were pizza at first. I know that what follows is therefore an effort in futility but on the off chance it helps another dramatard who actually has a soul on their journey I'll humor you.
There are a great number of delusional belief systems in the world. Accepting the empirically-verifiable concept of Heck does not necessarily imply anything about the truth of a religion aside from the fact that even they couldn't deny the transmigration of consciousness and the subtle cosmological fractal-nature of cause and effect. They just spin these self-evident facts in ways that benefit them. Christianity isn't incoherent because it says that men and women exist and are different. It's just true. And of course Christianity will interpret those differences in ways that further the Abrahamic egregore.
Religions (traditional, secular, civic or otherwise) obviously punish dissenters. It's simply due to basic evolutionary principles: intolerant worldviews are better at the whole game of survival of the fittest. Power is not directly-tied to truth but that does not mean it is orthogonal to it.
The only way to really discern what is true is through repeated empirical tests of cause and effect. You have to study how things arise and how things pass away. What causes this meditative state to arise and pass away? What causes these experiments to have this result versus that result? Everything else is blind lunacy.
And it is through repeated empirical observation within and without that anyone who is not blinded by wokism/feminism/secularism/etc comes to the conclusion that your intentions matter, your actions have consequences, and just because you don't want to face the consequences of your actions doesn't mean you get to get off scot-free.
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Oh ok
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!schizos get this b-word
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I've been to heck before and I survived it.
Don't you realize we are in a plane of existence where genocide and hatred and other negative emotions run rampant?
There is no reason to be afraid of heck because we are already there.
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It still tickles me whenever I see Christstrags seethe about Nietzsche with their impotent "GOD STILL LIVES" memes. They never understood that he was pointing out that they, the supposed Christians, no longer operated like a God existed and would send them to heck if they sinned. God itself is just a mere political concept for them, or a metaphysical daddy to make them feel better about themselves.
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Is that Hitler?
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Christstrags, stay losing.
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Heck is real and we are already there.
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Heck is real and the devil has his hooks in your butt.
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Heck is real and i got my peepee in the devil's butt
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What a great comment, love ya
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I love you too
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Your pulitzer's in the mail
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Heck is real and you’re going there unless you repent for raping all those children. Are you still raping children?
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Lovecraft even said he’d prefer non-existence.
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That's all there is to religion for the most part
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Christcuck IQ
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I really like the philosophical idea that souls are born from an ocean and return to it when they die. It's not an easy sell for people to go to church over because it discounts the idea that you have any lasting individuality that resembles the you of this moment in time, but I think it's compelling in answering questions of why some souls are flawed more than others. It's difficult to wrap your head around the idea that maybe your personality, as it is right now in this time, isn't very important in the scheme of things, but it's definitely something I find believable.
That David Mitchell book Bone Clocks plays with this concept although the book itself is just a wacky adventure set on top of it instead of taking it very seriously at all. My favorite book of his by far.
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Terror managment theory doesnt hold up evolution wise because itd mitigate the risk that animals need to take in order to achieve success. It's telling the major TMT theorist is a transhumanist who wants to live forever using technology, it's a new form of religion that I hope can get people closer to immortality but i'll take my chances with dying naturally
It also doesnt really hold up to our views of our own existence that have been going on from Socrates to Decartes to Freud. We establish theories to understand the world around us. Theres also the hard problem of consciousness, where we dont know how to objectively prove the existence or the meaning behind subjective experience. Theres definitely the possibility of the mind being unable to comprehend a lack of continuity, however we experience various forms of unconscious while alive and a big theme of our lives is subjective experience alters objective reality. So some of us cant comprehend non-existence, so we invent other forms, but we also cant comprehend other forms so invent non-existence. Depends on the brain chemistry
For example Epicurus said “why should I worry about death? When it only exists when I do not”. There's also that Lovecraft wanted oblivion. Not to mention that Buddhism also believes in such a fate and embraces it. In fact a lot of Greek philosophy and Buddhist philosophy influenced Modern Christianity, Modern Science and basically just how we live our lives. These ideas arent new, we've always been smart enough to comprehend the end of knowledge and subjective experience we just can never experience it. It's a belief system in the same way any form of death experience is. To some it's preferable to others not
Death is so interesting and mysterious because the dead do not know how to be alive and the alive dont know death. It's incredibly mysterious. We fear death knowing only life
Me? Im eternal reccurance-pilled (not really)
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Yes, the idea of Heck as eternal torment is so convenient, truly we invented this for our own comfort
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wow, that's so great right? there just so happens to be eternal darnation and hellfire awaiting those that step out of line and disagree with our worldview.
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As opposed to no consequences for shitposting online?
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jfc you're r-slurred
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Obviously, I’m on rdrama. what’s your point
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Atheists are just a bunch of smug r-slurs who never grew out of complaining about their parents taking them to church. Agnosticism is where its at, you don't have to argue about whatever hypothetically comes next, just make the most of things and roll with whatever happens. Its like radical centrism but for religion.
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"Santa believers and Santa disbelievers are equally as r-slurred. Only if you're on the fence about him ur smart like me."
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We can disprove the existence Santa through tons of observable means, the same can't be said for the concept of a metaphysical, omnipresent entity that exists beyond the scope of our comprehension as a guiding force for all of creation. We can certainly say most of the stories are bullshit, but we have no means of measurably proving that nothing exists beyond death.
The fact that you're trying to conflate a children's fantasy with the broad conceptual notion of a driving force underlying the very existence of the universe is the real
moment. I don't know which, if any, are close to a theistic truth, but I'm not going to waste time seething about churches online or praying for atheist redemption. I'll happily make fun of them both for doing dumb shit though.
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So euphoric
Neighbor listen to urself
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PalestinePingsalot EEE 1yr ago #4302646 spent 0 currency on pingsNo you can't. Santa exists, he is just invisible and only gives gifts by acting through other people so it's impossible to tell if he did anything.
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Saint Nick actually existed
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I figure most atheists and agnostics believe basically the same things. Self identified atheists are more annoying though.
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They're close. Atheism is denying the existence of any deity, whereas agnosticism is simply accepting that we don't know either way. Neither requires strict adherence to a guiding dogma on how to live your life like religion does, but atheism makes a claim to truth while agnosticism is open to evidence either way.
Atheism makes the assertion that deities doesn't exist, but it isn't capable of producing tangible evidences to prove this claim. It purports itself to be a rational position, but it is ironically guilty of the same act of faith in asserting theistic truth that religion is.
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You don't prove negatives, the burden of proof is on those claiming deities exist
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The claim is that it exists beyond the scope of our comprehension. You can argue that's bullshit, but its been foundational to civilizations the world over for the entirety of human history so its too ingrained to dismiss out of hand. Until you can definitely measure and disprove this metaphysical entity, you can't call it disproven.
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Convenient, but that doesn't mean claims of it being real are true
Lol and you want to call atheists r-slurred
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I didn't say it was a good argument, but that's the reality.
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"Everyone has repeated it forever" isn't even a proper argument
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Falsifiability means concepts can only be disproven, not proven
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You can't prove a negative, which is why it's r-slurred to assert a negative. You don't need to accept theism as true because you can't disprove it, but you shouldn't discount it entirely either. Just be agnostic.
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Oh, well as long as you’ve found a way to feel superior to both sides without having to think about anything.
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Then why aren't you agnostic about the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
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Because I devoured him. I am a God.
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why do (((christ)))cucks seethe so much when you tell them worshipping (((jewsus))) is a big nose scam?
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Back to /pol/ r-slur
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PalestinePingsalot Christmasthedral 1yr ago #4302632 spent 0 currency on pingsThe only source I trust is some desert people that could mind-control bears
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Yes.
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Why won't these stupid christtards listen to us when we use the word 'fricking' as punctuation and we're constantly and visibly miserable and angry???
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Darn breitbart is unreadable on mobile, I got 4 pop ups in a row
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Shocking, I know
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Physical strength means nothing if you are morally and spiritually weak. Deny Christ and be a slave too Sin. He is waiting for you, eternally. The righteous answer His call. Long live the ccp
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You don't get it. Arnie isn't making a statement about religion or whatever. Look at the context:
The Governator's an old man now. He's staring death in the face. He's not questioning the idea of an afterlife because he wants to do more hookers and blow (or whatever "Sin" came to mind), but because he might not wake up from his next afternoon nap.
You can't seriously tell me seeing the end of the rope wouldn't inspire a crisis of faith in a lot of otherwise devout people.
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In today’s corrupt world of media complete with advocation of Christ denial, it is hard to distinguish the truth. I hope he is truly a follower of Christ, and puts his faith in Him to have courage before the end
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Unlike your sky daddy...
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Validating delusions is wrongunless you're talking about 
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@ACA love it
Trans lives matter
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A guys not allowed to be afraid of death and have his own beliefs according to rightoids? What else is new?
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Ah, the old reliable rhetoric of the Christling!
"Jesus said it! This guy said that Jesus said it! Jesus wouldn't lie!"
The most common and most telling retort. So often when a man says "I am just" does it sound like "I am just avenged"
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Ma'am we've been over this before. You need to stop.
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PalestinePingsalot elvisfuckingpresley 1yr ago #4302661 spent 0 currency on pingsNever understood why you can't team up with Jesus after you die. Seems like the current arrangement only benefits the people selling religion
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because that wouldn't fulfill muh divine retribution fantasy!!
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🔥🔥🔥AAAACCHHHHHH!!!! NOOO!!!! I'M SORRY I MADE JUNIOR!!!! WHY MUST I FACE ETERNAL CONSCIOUS TORMENT FOR MOCKING THE LIVED EXPERIENCES OF TRANS MEN???!!! AAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! 🔥🔥🔥
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Impressive effort OP, tag it [effortpost].
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Thanks babe.
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Christstrag vs gaytheist is truly something that's pathetic in every sense.
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God I love the way christcucks use caps lock
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The Athechad makes the Christcuck sneed and cry with one sentence.
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What kind of sad pathetic cuck cares this much about the beliefs of a rioded up action star.
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Im sure this will inspire good debates in the comments
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Isn't the 'right amount of oxygens for humans' question kind of r-slurred since it'd basically apply to any species that evolved inside a certain environment at any point in time. Did god create dinosaurs because they existed at a time the environment had the right amount of oxygen for dinosaurs to live?
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The argument is that while it's possible to argue for some entity in Tolkien's cosmos to be known to be "transgender" due to a corruption of their nature, whether or not their "transgenderness" is inherently a quality of their nature or a corruption of their nature is inscrutable to all but the entity themselves and possibly Ilúvatar, but that even if some other entity perceives it to be due to corruption, that per Ilúvatar (or this narrator's representations of the words of Ilúvatar, being the narration given by Pengolodh), that such is mere perception, and that ultimately all that which Men do translates to the completion and perfection of the work.
That Men (those of the race of Men) have a necessary inherent quality which redeems them and their actions, a part of their nature which they express (and which, in our parlance, no one can judge). Even the Creator refuses to condemn it - only celebrates it.
And IMNSHO Pengolodh (the narrator) is Tolkien's self-insert for the purpose of narration.
So "trans people don't exist / aren't valid" isn't an argument from axioms in the universe of Middle Earth. That's related to, but separate from, "here's a trans person in Middle Earth", which to my knowledge isn't in evidence. I want to be argued away from that / be proven wrong.
I wrote the analysis because using Tolkien's Middle Earth to say "Tolkien says trans rights" is using his cosmos as an allegory, which he alternately declaims and claims (the "it's not an allegory to WWII" claim and the "It's the story of Christianity in an alternate universe" claim - both detailed elsewhere). So it's a viable avenue of argumentation - if he's going to deconstruct and then orthogonalise the precepts of Christianity into an alternate history, then we can deconstruct and orthogonalise the precepts of that cosmogony back to ours.
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