Fitness instructor tells redditor she hangs out with bitches in the nicest way possible, foids seethe and complain and type wordswordswords

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That guys sounds like a total butthole. Indeed time to switch programs.

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That entire paragraph sounded insecure to me. I think his feelings were hurt by the idea that someone didn't agree with him.

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Wow! What a terrible way to respond to a customer, let alone a human being.

Lmao

This is terrible. The assumption that women wouldnโ€™t respect men that lift less is the most disgusting for myself. I do powerlifting and last weekend I brought my boyfriend to the gym to teach him some moves and he canโ€™t lift the weight I do but that doesnโ€™t mean I donโ€™t respect him or see him like less of a man.

Foids of rdrama, do you respect weaklings? Correct answers only

He ends it with maybe you like weak men

I like men who are strong enough to handle constructive criticism about their microaggressions.

I can't squat 420 pounds or whatever, but strength doesn't require you to be an butthole. He'd probably call me a kitty for being a stay at home dad or for cycling instead of squatting for max power. But then I'd just respond that kitties are great and thank him for the compliment. I can guarantee my wife would drop me way faster if I fired off an email like that than if she could lift an arbitrary weight that I couldn't.

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100% and everyone is strong. There many different types of strength. - "My girlfriend has internalized misogyny and really wants me to see her as 'one of the guys' so that I will respect her and see her as an actual human being..." Disappointed, deleting the app :(

- A Woman straight up lies

I'm 5 feet tall and was only 95 lbs in high school when I hit my personal best of 370. Just saying. This was after months of weightlifting class and gaining 12 pounds of muscle, because I weighed 83 lbs when I started the class.

Thatโ€™s a 370 lb squat at 95 lbs? Or 370 total?

370 in weights and bar.

You are either low-key one of the greatest raw squatters of all time or mistaken about the weight you squatted, as the highest recorded squat in powerlifting for any -44 kg lifter, regardless of gender, drug testing, and wraps, is 160 kg, or 352 lbs. Only a handful of people at that weight have squatted 370+ and that was in multiply or equipped lifting. See these rankings on open powerlifting for more information. Many very strong people do not compete, but given this data I would be very interested in hearing more about what you did to achieve a 370 lb squat at that body weight, which is an incredible accomplishment.

A woman lies AGAIN

I started powerlifting with my coach in 2015. He's had me lift with men who can bench 800lbs. They are well over 300lbs. Never once has one ever said anything negative to me as a female lifter. Even on bench day when we have to remove all plates to get back down to my working set of like 150lbs. Never even an eye roll. They have been the absolute pinnacle of inclusion.

790 is the current bench press wr btw

I just threw up in my mouth a little. All that answer is missing is some "well, achkually..." I mean sure, he's not technically wrong, but wow does he manage to sound like a jerk. 0/10 customer service too.

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I wonder if humanity will ever move beyond the idea that being factually correct justifies any and all means of delivering the message. He's not wrong that on average the men are stronger than the women with equal training. Apparently the current consensus is that this is almost fully explained by differences in absolute lean tissue, rather than hormones, the magic Y chromosome or what have you. Dudes have more muscle at the same weight, muscle makes human strong. But he's being an entire peepeehole about it and justifying his tone by bringing the opinion of a girlfriend into it - remember, women are a monolith - is simply bad rhethoric. By that logic, wait until he finds out that his opinion is invalid because I have plenty of manly male men friends who think toxic masculinity is real and should end because it harms society. Thank you actually for replying the way you did, we need to call out shit like that. The righteousness boner some people get from Being Right is appalling.

Wow. I may be wrong about everything. But at least i'm not RUDE

That's a lot of words for "I think women are inferior and I can't take any criticism whatsoever." ๐Ÿค” - yow, that's offensive. I'm tempted to suggest calling him out on twitter.

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"If I liked weak dudes I'd be into you but here we are"

Foids posting shit they wouldn't dare say irl again i see

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Every single sentence he wrote was an embarrassment to humanity. It never got better.

:soyjak:

"All powerlifting men's records are higher than those of women" That's not even true, though. Marianna Gasparyan holds that all-time total record in the 123lb/56kg class, regardless of s*x: https://openpowerlifting.org/rankings/56/by-total

Jesus chould you imagine a 56 kilo man?

just came here to say this is gross

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I already thought his program kinda sucks but ew ew ew throw the whole man away. Thank you for posting this, and I'm sorry you had to experience that bullshit.

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lmao, he should challenge women who do BJJ or Judo and see what happens

I would pay to see this but she HAS to crush him or he'll only become more insufferable

Foids and delusions. Name a better combo

Heres the "transphobic" part:

I donโ€™t get how itโ€™s transphobic. Also, isnโ€™t Stronglifts for free so if you do it then you arenโ€™t really supporting him are you?

The whole thing of saying a man is less of a man if he's not stronger than (a strong, well-trained, able bodied) woman. What does that imply about trans men? That they're inferior men because they have female anatomy. That they're "abnormal and embarassing" if they can't lift like an able-bodied cis man. Also note how he switches from talking about genders (men, women) to sexes as if they were synonymous. Transphobic.As a general rule of thumb, the "men and women aren't the same, there's differences between the sexes" is a dogwhistle for transphobia.

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This is extremely tame and heโ€™s correct. This is what upset her??

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men aren't better than women

wrong + cuck

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I just threw up in my mouth a little. All that answer is missing is some "well, achkually..." I mean sure, he's not technically wrong, but wow does he manage to sound like a jerk. 0/10 customer service too.

โ€œitโ€™s not what you said itโ€™s how you said itโ€. But Mehdi does have a rather large ego for a professional trainer who has squatted 420 pounds

Lol I just checked his site and

One day my friends did amwrestling. I lost to all of them. Then I lost to a girl. When they did pushups, I couldnโ€™t do a single rep. But that girl could. I had never thought about strength before. But that day I was ashamed of being so weak. I decided to figure out how to get stronger.

I started doing daily pushups. In 1999 I joined the gym. I trained like a bodybuilder for several years until they kicked me out. Then I built a home gym and began to train for strength. I got bigger and stronger. My belly disappeared. I got six pack abs. My confidence went through the roof.

My friends noticed the transformation. Before I was the skinny, unathletic weakling. I couldnโ€™t get any girl (not even an ugly one). Now I was the โ€œgym ratโ€ โ€“ lifting hard, every week, no matter what. I had become disciplined and focused. Girls gave me more attention.

The foids might be a little right on this one

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I trained like a bodybuilder for several years until they kicked me out

We need to go deeper.

Foidposting aside this guy sounds like an untapped wellspring of lolmilk and copeseethe. Does anyone have the email address she replied to when she wanted to whine at him?

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it's a public mailing list you can get added. Also I think you can contact him through the site directly

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until they kicked me out

I'm sure this was due to the gym being unreasonable, not extreme autism (as is tradition for online fitness enthusiasts)

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Simp

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No heโ€™s completely right about women being weaker but also a little insecure from his past

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The point of a newsletter is to be inspirational rather than cringe, and he failed.

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It makes more sense when you realize heโ€™s Eastern European.

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The "maybe you like weak dudes" was a little too catty but everything else was correct.

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Itโ€™s hard as frick to get rid of tells that reveal your former life, in his case as a skinny weakling

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Toxic masculinity is when men hurt my feelings

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Probably the whole respect part is what they're all sperging out about. While like 90% of moids can theoretically outdo any/all foids, it's still something that takes practice and effort, and probably 90% of moids couldn't outdo any foid that regularly works out. I guess they're upset that someone wouldn't respect them or something :marseylifting:

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Maybe with running of swimming, but comparing sheer strength? Most out of shape guys would crush fit girls.


:#marseyastronaut:

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Hard disagree, assuming youโ€™re talking about women who lift rather than meaning like yoga and walking.

The thing is though, only like .1% of women lift, even among gymgoers. But at my gym, any woman that takes it semi-seriously can at least bench 135lbs.

Thatโ€™s not much, but Iโ€™ve also seen plenty of scrawny guys crumple under that weight. Any man could easily train past that, but few do. The gen pop man is like 90 mg/dl test and a 75lb bench.

Hierarchy:

Me>men who lift>Men whoโ€™ve lifted for 3 months>Strong lifts guy>women who lift>men who play vidya>99% of women

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Honestly I still canโ€™t picture it. I think I forget sometimes there are adult men under 5โ€™10.


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Average man is like 5โ€™6-5โ€™9. Good chunk is soyfaced and below 5โ€™6โ€, so you have to account for them. But a classic corn fed male should be able to beat almost every woman.

I literally saw 3 people this week into the rack catches benching the bar, all men.

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That's crazy, I don't lift at all and I remember benching just the bar when I was like 14 years old lol.

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Average male height in US is 6โ€™2โ€, there are modernized studies proving this. The older studies stating it was lower used severely flawed stats.

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Link? Sounds like bullshit but Iโ€™m not too invested either way.

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no? median in the US seems to be around 5โ€™9 to 5โ€™10 based on jewgle + some papers

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Itโ€™s 6โ€™2โ€.

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:marseycope:

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it just depends. when I worked out 0x/day a bit ago I could physically destroy foids who did 4h/day of workout despite looking like a drugged up twink with anorexia, AIDS, and a meth habit. A lot of fit foids will lose to a lot of gay r-slur men.

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and probably 90% of moids couldn't outdo any foid that regularly works out.

You way underestimate the difference especially in upper-body strength between the genders.

The average moid - literally the average in upper body strength among men - is stronger than 90% of foids.

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Easily, probably closer to like 99%. I'm talking about the top 0.1% of foids that are actually regularly (and neurodivergentally) working out their upper body strength.

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90% of men are stronger than 90% of women.

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I mean, maybe if we're talking about soup can curling Seattleite antifa, they might be struggling against fit girls.

But sheer mass alone brings most men above even fit girls, not to mention having a constant supply of testosterone steroids and a propensity for upper body strength.

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God darn that foid needs some peepee

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He's not towing the men and women are totally equal progressive line.

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Iโ€™ve always wondered, to what destination are people towing this imaginary line?

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You too. Toeing the line. You don't schlep the fricking line anywhere

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Toeing.

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