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  • 1378 : tfw banned so i can't metaphorically suck josh's peepee for DC
  • care_nlm : Holy shit that's a lot of :marseylongpost: for something no one cares about

:siren: wake up babe, WaPo's Kiwifarms hit piece just dropped :!marseynullbipolar:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/09/03/kiwifarms-website-offline

The endless battle to banish the world's most notorious stalker website

The anonymous forum, known as Kiwi Farms, keeps popping back online despite a relentless campaign by transgender activists and a former insider

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When he heard that Kiwi Farms had been knocked offline, "Clay," a member of the anonymous online forum, was flooded with relief. "I thought to myself, 'This heck on Earth has finally been vanquished.'"

Founded in 2013, Kiwi Farms has been used to organize vicious harassment and stalking campaigns against targets including Clara Sorrenti, a transgender activist known as Keffals, and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), a far-right Republican. It went down exactly one year ago, after Cloudflare, a major tech security firm, stopped providing services, saying contributors to the forum were posting the home addresses of those seen as enemies and calling for them to be shot.

But in the week that followed, Kiwi Farms scrambled to stay alive, jumping from Russian servers to a Ukrainian hosting service to VanwaTech, a Vancouver, Wash.-based hosting and security company infamous for providing refuge to 8chan, a message board notorious for white-supremacist content. As it became increasingly clear that Kiwi Farms would not go down without a fight, "Clay" --- who spoke on the condition that he be identified by a pseudonym to avoid retribution --- joined forces with Liz Fong-Jones, one of Kiwi Farms's fiercest adversaries, and launched a dogged campaign to keep the site offline.

Over the past year, their little group of internet sleuths, trans engineers and activists has methodically chased Kiwi Farms across servers and networks around the globe, successively persuading more than two dozen companies to drop the site. Despite this laborious undertaking --- described exclusively to The Washington Post --- the site has endured, showing up for months at a time, sometimes as a "mirror" of itself on an entirely different URL or as a foreign domain in countries such as Poland.

The group's Sisyphean battle illustrates the lack of mechanisms for reporting online abuse, much less for banishing harmful content. It also raises serious doubts about society's ability to block any site from the global web --- even one that explicitly incites violence.

"Either people think Kiwi Farms is dead forever ... or they think it's up and therefore it's going to remain up forever," said Fong-Jones, a transgender site-reliability engineer who had been targeted by the forum. "Neither of those two narratives are true."

Founded by Joshua Moon, a former 8chan administrator, Kiwi Farms evolved into a popular platform for creating harassment campaigns. Its users often fixated on transgender people, relentlessly stalking and doxing them. At least three of its victims died by suicide.

In response to a request for comment, Moon wrote by email, "Do you still print that rag on paper? If so, please send a physical copy of your smear piece to the PO box listed on the website so I can frame it. Thanks."

The campaign against Kiwi Farms began in earnest last summer. Sorrenti, a Twitch streamer who became famous as a news star for trans youth, had been under attack for months by Kiwi Farms users, who she said doxed her address and "swatted" her home, filing a false crime report that drove police to her door. In August, she fled her native Canada for Europe and launched a social media campaign to pressure internet providers to stop protecting the forum, using the hashtag #DropKiwiFarms.

From her home in Vancouver, Fong-Jones heard about the harassment against Sorrenti and immediately recognized the tactics.

Fong-Jones also had been targeted by Kiwi Farms beginning in 2017, when she donated to a transgender nonprofit. Users published her home address, the names of her biological parents and a redacted copy of her birth certificate in a thread that included racist and transphobic slurs. Members smeared her online in an attempt to ruin her Google search results, then sent her employers the false information.

Though the harassment had died down, Fong-Jones still felt compelled to contribute to the #DropKiwiFarms campaign. She made videos for her YouTube channel explaining Cloudflare's complicity in keeping the site online.

Those videos soon reached Katherine Lorelai, a transgender IT worker in Norman, Okla. Lorelai had never heard of Kiwi Farms and was distraught by what she learned from Fong-Jones's presentations.

Lorelai had been taking gender transition hormones for less than a year and had no connections to activist circles. Beyond wrangling server space, she had never worked on systems that spanned the entire internet. But she volunteered to help, starting as Fong-Jones's assistant, before stepping up to co-lead the team.

"I had no idea I had these skills, to be honest," Lorelai said.

The group began spending dozens of hours each week navigating the byzantine web of network infrastructure, trying to ferret out connections between no-name intermediaries to track down Kiwi Farms's new home. Then they would send carefully worded emails to those companies' employees --- even cold-messaging on LinkedIn --- to persuade them to stop working with the website.

The group operated in cells in case they were doxed but kept track of every internet provider they persuaded to cut ties with Kiwi Farms.

Moon had a few major advantages. After earlier attempts to take down the site, he incorporated as his own internet service provider, acquiring his own physical hardware, network resources and a block of IP addresses, making Kiwi Farms much more difficult to dislodge. It marks the site as a "peer" on the internet, meaning Moon directly receives any abuse reports and is entitled to a presumption of good faith.

When the team alerted FiberHub, a data center in Las Vegas, to alert the company to the bad actor using their facilities, the center said they merely provided the electricity and power cord but had no bearing on the servers that kept the site online. Those belonged to Moon's hosting company, originally incorporated under the name Final Solutions, a Nazi reference. FiberHub did not immediately respond to request for comment.

The group slowly discovered a network of what they called "sh--hosts" --- low-end internet providers who work with disreputable sites that spread malware or offensive content, arguing that they have a right to free speech.

But the group had an asset of their own.

Clay had been a member of Kiwi Farms in his teens. He was bored, seeking community, pressured by his friends and going through a libertarian phase, he said. But following the suicide of one of the site's targets, he began to push back on the forum's creed that its victims weren't human. He withdrew from the site after he saw Kiwi Farms members turn their talents for doxing and harassment on other members.

His goal in joining Fong-Jones and Lorelai's group was to help the forum's users, he told The Post. He pointed to Frederick Brennan, the creator of 8chan who called for that site to be taken offline after it played a role in mass shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand, and El Paso. Brennan, he said, "wanted to free [the] user base of that site from being radicalized, from going down a darker path. And that's what I'm sort of doing here."

Having Clay onboard was a game changer. One of the challenges in persuading companies that Kiwi Farms was a bad actor was the site's opaque language. Outsiders might overlook terms such as "TTD," which in Kiwi Farms's vernacular means "total tr--ny death," using a slur to refer to transgender people.

Clay could translate this language. He also could show how Kiwi Farms users migrated to Groomercord servers, where they were more explicit about planning attacks. He led activists to the threads most rife with racism and calls for violence. And he confirmed the trolls' habit of using the phrase "in Minecraft" to pretend an illegal activity, such as revealing the Social Security numbers of their targets, was just something they did in the online game.

"He was the Kiwi Farms whisperer," Fong-Jones said.

Clay, in turn, was getting an education of his own. Fong-Jones helped him get up to speed on the "backbone" of the internet --- massive networks responsible for publishing or passing along content known as Tier 1 ISPs --- as well as the smaller downstream companies that depend on them for global reach.

Specialists schooled him in navigating the labyrinthine telecommunications industry. They explained Border Gateway Protocol, the automated routing system that picks the best path for traffic. And they explained how to leverage Tier 1 ISP's acceptable use policies, the contracts that typically prohibit clients from using networks for theft, hacking, harassment, and other unwanted or illegal activity.

In October, the group made a breakthrough.

After rotating among web hosts, Moon had settled on Zayo, a company based in Boulder, Colo. Fong-Jones contacted someone at Zayo, a former colleague who was alarmed to learn his company was working with Kiwi Farms and escalated the matter to senior leadership.

Kiwi Farms's services were soon terminated. .In a statement, Zayo said it concluded that the forum had violated its acceptable use policy, "which allows for termination of service."

For Fong-Jones, it was a wake-up call. There are less than 20 Tier 1 ISPs in the world, and they get a ton of complaints: Spam. Malware. Harmful content. By and large, they try to stay out of such disputes, preferring to assume they are doing business with reputable companies. But the Zayo experience showed that --- if Fong-Jones could reach the right people --- top-tier providers were willing to prioritize enforcing their acceptable use policies.

Threats loomed over the group. After her YouTube videos about Cloudflare, Kiwi Farms users posted Fong-Jones's home address, Social Security number and driver's license. Once Zayo dropped the site, she began receiving death threats by phone.

Still, a year after the Cloudflare decision, asking providers to drop Kiwi Farms generates controversy. Last week, the Electronic Frontier Foundation published an opinion piece arguing that Tier 1 ISPs should not bow to pressure to drop Kiwi Farms, calling the move "a dangerous step" toward censorship.

"If the site in question were Reddit, or Planned Parenthood, or even EFF, the internet would be up in arms," wrote the foundation, a nonprofit digital rights group based in San Francisco.

Alejandra Caraballo, a clinical instructor at Harvard Law School's Cyberlaw Clinic, called that argument misplaced. "Fundamentally, EFF fails to acknowledge how power dynamics and asymmetrical threats can act as its own form of censorship," Caraballo wrote on X, the site formerly known as Twitter.

Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince has confessed to mixed feelings. While the company has withdrawn security services for the Daily Stormer and 8chan --- both linked to real-world violence, including mass shootings and a deadly riot --- Prince argues that revoking services based on reprehensible content sets a dangerous precedent.

"Deciding what isn't allowed is the job of governments and regulators, not ISPs and network providers," he said via the messaging app Signal. Still, he added, "I don't miss having to worry about [Kiwi Farms] and their often vile content."

Amid that debate, Kiwi Farms remains online. Without Cloudflare or Zayo or any of the two dozen other companies that have dropped the forum since the group started in September, Fong-Jones says it is down to a limited number of lifelines.

Lorelai, who is now committed full-time to trans activism, wants to move on to other causes. Fong-Jones is moving on as well. Clay and another one of the younger members of the group plan on carrying the torch.

Reflecting on the past year, Fong-Jones said it's unreasonable to expect victims of harassment to have to do this work.

It's true Kiwi Farms keeps finding more providers, she said. But, "it's a finite list. And this is why we know we're going to win."

!chuds !transphobes

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>please do not make the huge logical error of then thinking all terrible people support the US alt-right.

I'm so glad someone finally understands us.

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What's their specific beef with MTG? I would think she'd be an ally.

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No beef with MTG. Some troll group SWATted MTG a few times as well as a lot of others. She decided that taking down KF would stop that somehow.

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I thought keffals followers swat'd MTG and blamed the :marseykiwi2: and she's r-slurred enough to believe them

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:marseyshrug: who knows

I'll start repeating that though because it sounds nice

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Surprisingly nuanced takes in that thread.

Despite the “:marseytrain: ARE LITERALLY BEING GENOCIDED” article a lot of people still condemning the ISPs for being cucks

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  • IANALOG : Supporting free speech is an immediate ban.

If Kiwifarms actually had free speech on its site this wouldn't have happened. I can't feel sorry for them until they actually unban me, and Null personally apologizes to me. If you censor me, then you make me your enemy that simple. Being able to say whatever I actually want to say, doesn't matter how much the local tards there will disagree with, is the most important to me. Free speech is non-negotiable, and KF is the enemy of free-speech.

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Kiwifarms is a private company sweetie, if you don't like it you can make your own forum :marseywholesome:

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You banned me from /r/drama sit down

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did you post degenerate nsfw pics? like that ai shit you usually post disgusts me :marseyyikes:

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!followers !coomers

This fascist is silencing artistic expression then cries as he strikes you

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just because something makes your peepee hard, it doesn't make it art. now I understand why God strikes down the sexually immoral.

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Thinking you get to define what is art is a classic fascist talking point

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If I'm a fascist for being grossed out by pics you post then I am a fascist I guess.

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Banning or removing it does !

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:marseyhesright:

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:marseyjerkofffrown: Yeah lets listen to your opinions on art. :marseyagreefast:

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Hey, some jagoff added incorrect emotes to your comment. Mind removing them for me, b-word?

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>God strikes down the sexually immoral.

https://media.giphy.com/media/PNjRQH2xSrBNC/giphy.webp

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Its incredibly tasteful. the fascists are just philistines who can't recognize real art.

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We need more gay porn on rdrama hungol.

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/h/gayporn must be immediately destroyed!

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Did it have too many fingers? That gets me off... :marseynut:

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Injustice anywhere means injustice everywhere.

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First they came for the AI coomer pics and I did not speak up, for I was not a coomer

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It is what it is, null (who is clearly borderline r-slurred) banned me because he fell for someone posting a fake boarding pass for an airline called something like "Golden Shower Airlines." I called him a fricking r-slur for falling for something so obviously wrong and he banned me for a week telling me to "take my meds."

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he banned me for a week telling me to "take my meds."

why didn't you?

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Because the voices told me not to

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Based

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The voices in your head told me to tell you to start showering more and to send me 500 dollars.

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I assumed the point of kiwifarms was laugh at people doing the stupid not :marseyfreezepeach:

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but if you are not allowed to laugh at the "wrong" people doing the stupid, the people of that site, then the whole thing is pointless, without self-reflection being allowed.

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Who were the wrong people you were laughing at? What did they specifically ban you for.

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I was simultaneously critisizing them in multiple threads, I don't even remember which one was the one that got me banned, but they did get real mad at each of my comments, and that felt good.

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really doing wonders for the sensitive cute twink stereotype here quad

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aren't you the Canadian who bet his life savings on Trump winning the 2020 election?

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lol, triggered

250 leafbux ain't much even by my standards, I've paid more for bad kitty

also, he did win

!chuds

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I've paid more for bad kitty

!moidmoment

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It sounds like you were spamming, and maybe not in the right places for it. Here are some trolling strategies for Kiwifarms that would probably work better:

1. Stick to the discussion boards, Neurodivergent Thunderdome. Especially Mass Debates and Articles & Happenings. Getting banned from Mass Debates for debating would be really funny. And A&H is the containment board for the most thin skinned wingcucked r-slurs on the site.

2. Make on topic comments in threads about trans people, but use people's correct pronouns. So many times I'll see a thread get derailed because even though a user provided some interesting information, they called a trans woman "she" so the users couldn't help themselves and outrage post for 10 pages about how dare you call a trans woman a woman.

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so you're an r-slur? got it.

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If making people on the internet mad for fun makes me an r-slur, than I'm an r-slur.

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The eternal dramautist laughs at the kiwi agendaposter.

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The purpose of kiwifarms is to stalk internet personalities and make 1000 page threads full of pure seethe, while pretending you're having a good time

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>:marseyrage: we're just pointing :marseyobamacope: and laughing!

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you always have a hateboner for that site. What was your account?

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I had the same name, but I was banned in less than 1 day so I couldn't do too much.

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Your account doesn't even show up. You must've been a huge sped to get banned like that.

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Not everyone has the patience to tolerate badfaith trolls

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I was actually a good faith troll, trying to get them to achieve self-awareness, and make them realize how cringe their site culture is, so they can leave and fix their life, and be better.

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In other words, badfaith

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Why would you not expect to be banned for that? Its like coming here and preaching that gussy > bussy

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We don't ban straggots, we just make fun of them

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>kiwifarmers

>having a sense of humor

Pick one and only one

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Well we should be :stoning:

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And that's a good thing!

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Censorship protects everybody, including and especially Transgender folx, from real-world harms. Also :marseyfreezepeach: does not exist to protect hate speech, never has, never will, and never should.

The main problem with KF is not that it censors people but that it censors the wrong people.

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And who decides what is hate speech and what isn't? The way we protect transgender folk is by allowing the transphobes to speak, but then telling them they are buttholes, what they said was gross.

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The Democratically Elected government and free media should, and already does decide what is hate speech and what isn't (transphobia is already classified as hate speech). You can still call transphobes buttholes and dox them if you want but there still needs to be a clear authority who decides who you are or are not permitted to harass and why. The basic principle behind this being the Paradox of Tolerance. Gender characteristics are increasingly protected by governments worldwide (good thing) but there is still too much political freedom where hate is concerned (e.g. people openly becoming Nazis in Germany, the US, Hungary, etc) who are hostile to these protections. These "people" (nazis) need to be put in their place, if you know what I mean :marseycomrade:

We should also have publicly available lists of social pariahs like transphobes and nazis detailing their full names, addresses, and personal details so they are publicly shamed everywhere they go.

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What if the people democratically elect far-right criminals?

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That won't be possible, for example in Germany they banned the nazi party and soon they will ban the nazi-adjacent AfD. The government should also educate and train all children in schools on proactive, prosocial anti-fascism and encourage punching nazis in public, which will be easy to do when the information about known nazis is public. It should be mandatory for nazis to wear armbands in public indicating what they really are, or they can be given a permanent "inglorious basterds" swastika scar on their forehead. There should also be a secret police force tasked specifically with identifying potential fascists and removing them from positions of authority as well as enforcing general anti-fascist discipline within the government.

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See I know this is a bit but I also personally know people who believe this unironically :marseyclueless: it's the same people who get really up in arms over antisemitism and then get really uncomfortable when I (glorious jewish chad) find it funny :marseyjewish:

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You either suck it up and accept your loss or declare war on the unwashed proletariat savages

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i know, :marseyoctopus2:, but still

Having governments and vague institutions like "the media" decide what constitutes a basic emotion, such as hate, is surrendering your own humanity. The function of a legal apparatus should be to punish observable actions, not the individual for having or expressing feelings. "I don't like the Jews" is an emotion, "I don't like the Jews, we should kill them all", is an already illegal call for violence. If you need the state to protect you from mean words on the Internet, the fault is with you for not turning off the screen and leaving the house for a change.

Also, since I already swallowed the hook:

there still needs to be a clear authority who decides who you are or are not permitted to harass and why

You might find that you'd get along pretty well with some of those nazis you complain about, actually. Maybe invite them on a beer and talk about your favourite authoritarian leaders or something. Get the ball rolling

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Nonconformity to the correct emotional response to an event is an inhumane act in itself, e.g. not showing proper reverence for George Floyd or failing to raise your fist in solidarity with Black Lives Matter

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Sorry, but I never conformed to anything. Disrespecting my nonconfirmity is literal contrarian genocide :npcoppsegenocide:, sweaty, and I do not appreciate it :marseynails:

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:marseyxesright: excellent point, we need to be inclusive to nonconfomists too. Except the nonconfomists or contrarians who are bad (such as fascists)

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Than- I mean: frick you! If I wanted to feel included I would go to reddit and say trans rights :marseyindignant:

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Calling for genocide isn't even illegal. Mayocide is both morally and legally permissible.

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transholes are grosser

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Xe are quadnonymous. Xe do not forgive, xe do not forget. As we speak, I am contacting my network of ISPs and your website is being traced so you better prepare for the storm, non-decent person

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QuadNarcs unite!

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>gimmick BIPOC pins comment for attention that it can't get organically

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and you KEEP GIVING ATTENTION TO IT I FRICKING SWEAR :ragestrangle:

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. you chud r-slurs get baited by a single pin. You know what would be the greatest insult to quad? if the comment stays at 10 upmarseys with no engagement. But you NEED to declare superiority over the most obvious troll imaginable. This has gone on for way too long that it cannot be defended with "the fact that i believed it says more about" or "i was pretending to fall for it like an r-slur"

There could be a post with the cure for cancer found, where quad pins a comment saying "dis is the greatest for trans rights, no cisoid deserves the treatment" and you unfathomably stupid r-slurs would longpost about how the empirical data says chud rights

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:#marseybrainletclapping:

You're a dumb cute twink if you think that's what I'm doing.

He isn't a gimmick BIPOC like the other reddit r-slurs here who have their gimmick phrases that keep getting spammed. With those, you keep zero engagement and it works.

This BIPOC wants you to take his "bait" i.e "merely pretending to be r-slurred" shit so he can argue like a redditor.

I'm not doing that. I'm just calling him for what he is. A jannie gimmick BIPOC. I don't upvote, I don't downvote. I just tell others what this attention whoring r-slur really is.

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Reminder that you can now mute posters.

On a related note, can someone explain to me how to do it?

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quad is the only jannie here who constantly pins her own comments in another users post. Accept you fell for the bait and move on, you calling it out is exactly what he wants. stop giving someone as annoying as quad attention

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>you take the bait when you call an r-slur acting like an r-slur r-slurred

t. brainlet

you calling it out is exactly what he wants

No, he wants you to argue about whatever the post is about. I'm not doing that. I'm talking about meta. There's a difference, r-slur.

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everyone involved in this is a fricking r-slur. KEEP YOURSELF SAFE BOTH

!slots100

Your fortune: Allah Wills It

Coinflip: :tails:

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ok

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What did they ban you for?

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cringe janny pin

:#marseyattentionseeker:

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I love you too chiobu

:#marseyheart:

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:#marseymoplicker:

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god you are horrible. i want to put you in my room and use you against my enemies.

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They literally interviewed Liz Fong-Jones and cast him as the good guy and make no mention of his history of admitted rape :marseyxd:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/1707881499271494.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17101210991135056.webp

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Members smeared her online in an attempt to ruin her Google search results, then sent her employers the false information.

It was all made up by the nazis to slander her :marseyindignant:

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I love how they claim it was false and always say not to look in the same breath, but they never provide any evidence to the contrary

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>Dude claims to allegedly kill himself

100% Proof this website and all it's people are evil! EVIL! Yes, it was proven that he didn't do it or whatever, but it still shows how distressed thats site and it's memembers make people

>:marseytrain2:s getting reported for s*x crimes 24/7

come on you can't judge a group of people by the actions of the few.

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It's called being a decent human being sweaty, next time try not being an incel nazi in bad faith

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It was just a "consent accident", sweaty. Just some dog hair, transphobe. It's not a big deal, kink is inherently trans, bigot.

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>cishet dude makes a heckin rapsey wapesy? girls just need to chill, she probably wants attention

>a train disrespects my safe word? I WILL HUNT HER TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH

I'd give more of a shit if you brave crusaders for affirmative consent made even the slightest pretense of consistency.

Why'd y'all sleep on the brett kavanaugh hearings? Evidence against boof boy was at least as convincing as some random unsourced screen grabs.

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I was for Kavanaugh till i found out he didnt even R*pe the B-word

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Not all of it, some was fricking exaggerated, or cast in worst light, or taken out of context. But yes, some was fricking fabricated wholecloth.

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Factcheck: Yes.

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lest we forget here is @BWC's copypasta:

Remember that this is the one who is trying to keep the farms down: Liz Fong Jones, the self-admitted male feminist who had a "consent accident", and who worked at Google and has enough corporate connections to take down the Farms.

These :marseytrain2: with corporate and media connections (how very socialist!) want to take the Farms down not because of harassment, swatting, racism, transphobia, doxxing, or whatever Twitter cries about every month, because these psychos only care about themselves, it is simply because they want the Farms' massive archive of male feminists, pedos, zoosadists, and child/animal/wife abusers admitting to their crimes to not be easily-accessible public knowledge.

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Imagine being an Asian who :marseytrain2: out yet you still look like the most masculine minecraft brick-jaw gigachad-looking motherlover on the planet :gigachad2:

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Also zxe used to date(?) an armless :marseytrain2: who thinks its a snake god :marseymeds:

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It's because people with an agenda are fricking trying to paint them in worst possible light by inventing unflattering narratives around the fricking facts on the fricking ground- exactly like how the fricking opponents of KiwiFarms learned to approach the fricking site.

And it just leaves me wondering how much of you insisting otherwise is fricking playing stupid or being stupid. Either way, Aevann and CarpathianFlorist should be weary around you.

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:#marseymeds:

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My questionable mental stability isn't what's in question here :marseyschizo:

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slithers up to you

H-hi sssssssweaty

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DINNER :#marseywerebackchingchong:

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Do you ever look hungrily at your chinchillas when you're craving a late night snack?

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NEVER! i'd let them eat me if we had no food lol :cryingatcuteness:

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This is the "consent accident"?

I'm not familiar with all this r-sluration. Do people think LFJ is lying about the dog hair and there actually was sexual assault? Because from the little I know, it doesn't seem hard to believe LFJ would be hanging out with the type of person to have an neurodivergent meltdown over dog hair.

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It's just LFJ's side of the story so who knows :marseyshrug: a little sus to delete the tweet if it's really a misunderstanding but I'm obviously biased

And looking at the pull LFJ has with tech companies in trying to pull KF off the web maybe the alleged victim didn't feel safe enough to come out with her side of the story fearing repercussions

But might just be foid histronics lol who knows

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Believe women you chud

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Thank you for speaking with us today in spite of the stochastic campaign of terror against you Mr. Hitler. Please tell us more about this “Jewish Question” and some possible answers to it for the viewers at home. Is there any action we, as members of our communities, can take on a local level? What should the state's role be in righting these wrongs?

:#marseyreportercnntalking:


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Hello MNN, thank you for tirelessly pursuing the truth. Unfortunately Hitler is a heckin ebil nazi who hates the light of Journ*lism, but Marx could help you with your Jewish Questions.

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What was the sexual assault?

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No one knows

There are no details other than those tweets lol

!ranchers discuss


:#capysneedboat2::#capyantischizo::#space:

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I mean like, allegedly didn't inform the other person about... dog hair on their clothes?

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that's just the perp's side of the story

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Normally that story might sound idiotic and made up, but with trains...:marseyshrug: factor in some combination of autism and mental illness and it's sort of believable.

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consent accident*

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They also didn't mention that LFJ started the fight, or that the original motivation was to cover up a friend's embezzlement.

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It was a consent accident, not r*pe you fricking chud

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It should be obvious to you if you're a male feminist!

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Dismissed as "smeared online" and "false information"

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Don't forget how fiercely the wapo has ignored all the evidence of Hunter/jow Biden corruption that now includes subpoenaed records and testimony under oath before Congress, bank statements, etc.

They have no trouble brushing off a few links to old social media accounts posted on a blacklisted website when the facts don't follow their narrative.

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Listen I get you sympathize with the fricking farmers and all, but that's something the fricking farmers care about, not journos. LFJ is fricking just trying to spare other trans lives of this pain.

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The pain of raping someone and then people finding out you're a male feminist :marseycry:

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Fake news, motherlover!

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Prove that it didn't happen :marseythinkorino2:

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r*pe

Consent accident. Tell @AnnoyinTheGoyim you don't believe trans women are women without telling me.

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Community notes to the rescue... right


Secured my spot as a top 100 most memorable rdrama poster

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:marseyschizotwitc#h:

This shit is driving me insane.

They can just lie on the public record like this over the smallest potatoes.

Have they ever told the truth?


Follower of Christ :marseyandjesus: Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.

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This article will now be cited as a reliable source for Wikipedia's Kiwifarms page :marseywholesome:

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:#marseyxd::#marseyspit::#marseydepressed:

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This nu-age is so unbelievably gay :marseysigh:

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Have they ever told the truth?

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!chuds

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ikr

:#marseyschizowave:

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They got a lot more shameless about it since 2016. Truth is secondary to narrative, the public just need to be kept away from any inconvenient facts that might lead them astray.

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In the case of The Washington Post, it happened in September 2013, when Jeff Bezos purchased it from the Graham family. Comparing articles from 2011 to articles from 2015 is like night and day. :marseyamazon:

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Yeah, with Trump there was really no way to cover him except to point out that he's always lying. But jounos immediately took that as permission to just say anybody they didn't like is a liar and has no legitimate point of view.

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Or did we just start :marseynoooticer: in 2016


Follower of Christ :marseyandjesus: Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.

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Americans :marseyamericanpearlclutch: used to notice, back in the 70s and 80s. Curious :marseysuspicious: they took away leaded gasoline :marseyflamewar: then

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>Have they ever told the truth?

Gary Webb was the last honest mainstream journ*list and he got two bullets in the back of the head. Assange was dragged screaming from his heck hole embassy imprisonment and is gonna be sent to Guantanamo.

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And he confirmed the trolls' habit of using the phrase “in Minecraft” to pretend an illegal activity, such as revealing the Social Security numbers of their targets, was just something they did in the online game.

SHIT, THEY CRACKED THE CODE!

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It's a shame the editor cut the part where Keffals blew 100k of crowdfunded lawsuit money on emotional support cocaine.

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Reported by:

In his defense that is a pretty great use of 100k


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I need details of this, lol. We got receipts?

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Keffals said she had to go to rehab for coke.

The 100k raised for a lawsuit against the police prior has yet to be seen in any form of a lawsuit. The only thing on that front was a free to file human rights tribunal claim demanding more money.

People have done some really hard thinking and connected those two dots.

You can find the details on the kiwi farms thread! It's a good resource


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Holy frick those two are hideous.

It also raises serious doubts about society's ability to block any site from the global web

Imagine thinking this is a bad thing

And he confirmed the trolls' habit of using the phrase "in Minecraft" to pretend an illegal activity, such as revealing the Social Security numbers of their targets, was just something they did in the online game.

This whole thing reads like a parody.

:#marseyxd:

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Kiwi Farms users migrated to groomercord servers, where they were more explicit about planning attacks.

So supposed violence wasn't actually being planned on the actual forum but groomercord? Why don't trains go after groomercord for hosting such dangerous things? :hmm:

!nooticers

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Established social media = who cares if they're hosting terrorists? (unless Elon Musk owns the platform)

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:#marseywrongthonk:

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not getting laid and being unloved gives them a lot of free time to do these nonsense

have you seen a passoid do anything similar? lol

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not getting laid

Nah, they get laid. It's just usually a consent accident.

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darn just like me fr fr

also gj on this thread a lot of drama

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also gj on this thread a lot of drama

and yet this got janny unpinned lol :marseysigh: sacred cows and shit

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site is dying lol

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Jarvis, post the normie infiltration meme cycle image :marseymissing2:

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>every single normie glowie rn

wait, in minecraft means IRL? frick, get the president, NOW… we got problems

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"In Minecraft" means IRL? Mr president, we have a serious situation. Literally thousands of 8 year old boys are attempting to open portals to heck in real life.

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They are fricking writing for the fricking lowest common denominator, like politicians

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Hilarious how journ*lists, people who supposedly rely upon the first amendment's protections for their jobs, have become the biggest cheerleaders for culling those protections.

Trans Lives Matter

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Incredible scoop about the anonymous insider mole "Clay" who helped decode mysterious opaque terminology such as "total :marseytrain: death".

:#marseyxd::#marseyspecial:

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Incel creole has gotten pretty difficult for the fricking normies to keep up with

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Incel creole

In the same category as ":marseytrain: lives matter" tbh.

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I hope that's a fricking compliment :marseybow:

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That's what you get when you turn colleges into commie propaganda institutions :marseyshrug:

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It's simply because these aren't journ*lists, they're muckraking bloggers who will write anything for clicks and views. Journ*lism went out the window the moment traditional, serious newsmedia gave way to the 24/7 news cycle. The people writing for the WaPo are no different than the people making TikToks specifically to generate slapfights in the comments. We used to call that "trolling".

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>listening to a foid "journo" (culture reporter 😂)

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In response to a request for comment, Moon wrote by email, "Do you still print that rag on paper? If so, please send a physical copy of your smear piece to the PO box listed on the website so I can frame it. Thanks."

They actually put his response in the article :marseyxd:

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Then they would send carefully worded emails to those companies' employees --- even cold-messaging on LinkedIn --- to persuade them to stop working with the website.

they make harassment sound so hecking wholesome when the :!marseytrain:s do it

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Carefully worded reeeeee trans genocide keep yourselves safe TERFs


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>Alejandra Caraballo, a clinical instructor at Harvard Law School's Cyberlaw Clinic, called that argument misplaced. "Fundamentally, EFF fails to acknowledge how power dynamics and asymmetrical threats can act as its own form of censorship," Caraballo wrote on X, the site formerly known as Twitter.

>Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince has confessed to mixed feelings. While the company has withdrawn security services for the Daily Stormer and 8chan --- both linked to real-world violence, including mass shootings and a deadly riot --- Prince argues that revoking services based on reprehensible content sets a dangerous precedent.

>"Deciding what isn't allowed is the job of governments and regulators, not ISPs and network providers," he said via the messaging app Signal. Still, he added, "I don't miss having to worry about [Kiwi Farms] and their often vile content."

Oh my god, the fricking audacity of talking about "power dynamics and asymmetrical threats" right before citing a dude that clearly was unwillingly pressured into dropping KF because of power dynamics and asymmetrical threats from TRAs. The reason he doesn't miss KF is not because hosting it plagued his conscience, it's because activists were trying to damage CloudFlare in order to leverage them to drop KiwiFarms.

The entire article is built on the usual tribalistic "when we do it it's activism and consequences culture, when you do it it's hate and harassment" bullshit. Sending a message on LinkedIn to a TRA's employer about their diaperfur fetish is stochastic terrorism, but cold-messaging CloudFlare employees about what a shitbag Matthew Prince is or whatever people were doing is perfectly fine.

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Notice how there's not a single sentence in there explaining what Cloudflare actually is and what it does :marseyhmm:

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The most shameless misinformation in this is pretending Keffals is a) an activist and b) even remotely famous. :marseyunamused:

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Keffals has fallen so far off that the farms barely even care anymore.

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Isn't he an amateur fart porn actor? Trans women are women.

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She's a streamer with an audience that would barely qualify her as a micro e-celeb (maybe).

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Also an amateur fart porn actor. :marseysniff:

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