US Air Force pilot and part time V-22 Osprey shill on reddit literally dies irl in a V-22 crash. Cant make this shit up

CNN Article: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/04/politics/osprey-japan-wreckage-found/index.html

https://www.afsoc.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/3600634/afsoc-aircraft-mishap-releases

I think its the first guy in this list


My husband was flight lead and had planned this mission for months. He did what he could to save everybody, but he's gone.

https://old.reddit.com/u/UR_WRONG_ABOUT_V22

His comment history is literally just arguing with people online, multiple comments per day for years.

Dude we fly V-22s over Tokyo. There are no cities that ban V-22 overflights.

The V-22 is one of the safest rotorcraft we have.

https://www.safety.af.mil/Divisions/Aviation-Safety-Division/Aviation-Statistics

If you actually look at aircraft destroyed rate in Air Force service for example the HH-60 comes in at 1.88 per 100K hours and the CV-22 is lower at 1.7

Deployed to Japan

Except you just made that up. Only two V-22 crashes have killed more than 5 people. The H-60 crash two weeks ago killed 5 people, the 60 crash in April killed 10, and the 60 crash in March killed 9.

Most people involved in a V-22 crash walk away from it.

Oh no no no :marseydarkxd:

>TIL. I was told VRS was an issue in the early days of the program but I'm guessing by your user name that you are more familiar with it lol

If you hear that again, you can tell them that the V-22 is actually less susceptible to VRS than a legacy helo. The higher speed downwash makes it so you need an even higher rate of descent at low speed to get into VRS in the first place. It's also easier to exit once in the conditions:

Source: I'm a career V-22 pilot

Rest in peace neighbor :marseysalutearmy:

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Helicopters are already contraptions in a constant death struggle with physics, and you get to join the lottery to become collateral damage.

Imagine willingly embarking into one of these pieces of shit, let alone flying it. :marseydunce:

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Even when they don't crash, they're terrible for pilots. After a career of flying rotorcraft your back is gonna be FRICKED up. Every landing is basically a "crash" landing, they can't land smoothly like fixed-wing craft do on a runway (well maybe tilt-rotor craft can land that way but I think they typically land vertically). I mean you try to get as close to the ground as you can but at some point you basically release and hit the ground hard. It's not good for you.

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what? Pretty sure this isnt true, Ive never seen a heli landing where the pilot cuts power to land. You can lower the collective slightly and maintain a very slow rate of descent until you touch the ground, way softer than a f18 carrier landing for example. Probably even softer than a commerical airliner now that I think about it.

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way softer than a f18 carrier landing for example

Well true, I suppose I wasn't thinking about carrier landings. They still use arresting cables, right? That's gotta be rough.

I got this info from a friend who flies helis for USCG. I probably misunderstood the "cut power" but he said the landings are always much rougher on your body bc they're more abrupt, which makes sense if you think about how little vertical velocity fixed-wing craft have when they land on a normal runway (virtually none).

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If your friend is flying for the USCG I'd take his word as being only accurate for the USCG. I've worked with them enough to know they're not a good choice for determining what standard is or should be.

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Army Marine and AF pilots have a shitload of problem with back pain, especially gunships but that's more to do with twisting around looking for things to kill

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He has a soyboy back.

Opinion discarded.

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black hawk pilots set them down on weird terrain smoothly all the time, not to say they can't slam them down when they need to be fast

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I've know navy pilots use a winch set up for landing. the ship attaches to them, the pilots increase power and the winch pulls the aircraft slowly and gently down until it's landed

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You mean for a carrier landing? So basically they fly over the runway to catch a winch, then keep the cable taut by increasing power as it pulls them down?

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yup

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Even when they don't crash, they're terrible for pilots. After a career of flying rotorcraft your back is gonna be FRICKED up. Every landing is basically a "crash" landing, they can't land smoothly like fixed-wing craft do on a runway (well maybe tilt-rotor craft can land that way but I think they typically land vertically).

And that is why we need to bring back the autogiro.

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What's that?

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It's like an airplane, but instead of wings it has helicopter blades that aren't powered.

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I understand the logic but I was a helo company marine (not smart enough to fly one obvs) and dont remember any hard landings.

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Helicopter pilots have fricked up backs because the seating position isn't really natural or comfortable. You're basically sitting up right for hours doing constant inputs using your left and right arm and left and right foot.

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ive flown on helicopters dozens of time and theyre still terrifying to me, i hate them

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I fight any helicopters on sight for what they did to Kobe.:marseypunching#!: :marseypinochet#:


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