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EFFORTPOST :marseyflagsouthafrica: SOUTH AFRICA BURNS :marseyflagsouthafrica: - THE 2021 SA RIOTS :marseyfirehead: :marseyburn: :onfire2: :marseynecklace: :marseynecklace: :marseynecklace:

Psyche! This is actually a Jacob Zuma Post! :marseydevil: :marseydevil: :marseydevil: PART 4! :marseyspooky: That's right straggots, u vil read ze Longpost and zu vil be happy :marseysatanworship1:

I've read countless articles by non-safrican liberal r-slurs about the 2021 riots, and the amount of misinformation and r-sluration :marseyretard2: western journos have regarding anything RSA related truly is astonishing. I've said it before: but the amount they get wrong goes well beyond liberal bias or any agenda pushing, they genuinely don't fricking understand.

Because the primary cause, first and foremost of the 2021 Riots in SA, is and fricking always has been Jacob fricking Zuma.

To Summarize where we were at: The last time we dramatards visited Zuma, he had refused to fricking give way to Cyril ramaphosa (current SA prez), who had defeated him in the 2018 ANC Conference, where factions were split, but Zuma ultimately failed to secure leadership of the ANC party. It was a momentous event, and the media :marseybluecheck: :marseyjourno: :marseyreportercnn: :marseybudddwyer: fricking followed the ANC Conference like shadows, every hour there was a twitter update of the event (a relatively new phenomenon for safricans).

Well Zuma and his supporters got turbo cucked, because the presidency was the only thing keeping Zuma from prison, he had made too many enemies, and his corruption alongside the Guptas had lost him too many allies within the ANC itself. In 2018 Zuma made the worst attempt at a Coup ever in history, when he tried to coerce military heads of RSA to back him, only to let the cowardice and lack of communication backfire, his entire administration being Putin-levels of corrupt and imbecilic :marseybrainlet: :marseygigaretard: :marseyretard3: :marseystroke: and the entire coup attempt amounting to :marseynothingburger: :marseynothingburger: :marseynothingburger:

FINALLY, on February 18 2018, Zuma resigned from the presidency, seeing that he had exhausted all attempts at grappling onto power, and had to be metaphorically dragged out of the office. (Can u guyz imagine if fricking Trump remained in the White house till fricking mid Feb??)

On 16 March 2018, a month after Zuma resigned from the presidency, the NPA (South Africa's National Prosecuting Authority) announced that he would ace prosecution of a metric shitload of corruption charges.


CORRUPTION CHARGES - ZONDO COMMISSION:

https://www.news24.com/news24/opinions/analysis/the-state-capture-inquiry-what-you-need-to-know-20180819

Because of the magnitude of investigating a president, a special Judicial Commission of Inquiry was stablished in January 2018 to investigate Zuma, for allegations of state capture, corruption, and fraud.

The media and public would come to know this as either the "State Capture Commission" for South Africans kept talking about that Zuma had committed Staatskaping or "State Capture", as in Zuma had held the fricking nation hostage lol (we are a very dramatic bunch) :marseylaughpoundfist: :marseyeyeroll2: :marseyeyeroll2: :marseyeyeroll2:

The other name the commission was known as was the Zondo Comission - named after the head Judge who acted as chairperson, and and spearheaded the investigation.

And guyz, hollllllllllleeeeeeeeey frick, was EVEN THIS inquiry a typical South African brand of burning :marseynecklace: :marseynecklace: trashfire :crap: :crap: shitshow.


The Zondo Commission took 2.5 fricking years to finish, received :8: extensions, and cost the taxpayer an astronomical R 1 billion :marseypoggers: :marseypoggers: :marseypoggers: wat de fok

https://mg.co.za/news/2022-04-28-zondo-granted-eighth-extension-as-part-four-of-state-capture-report-is-awaited

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17021215011060367.webp

Needless to say the Zondo Comission was as inept, incompetent and corrupt as the very man they were investigating lmoa :marseyxd: :marseyxd: :marseyxd:

Anyways long boring story short: it took until December 2020 for the Zondo comission to do its thing, and finally present its case for the national prosecution against Zuma.

And the corruption trial :marseygrouns: against JZ was to begin 2021.


ZUMA'S LEGAL BATTLE:

From the very beginning of his trial in early 2021, Zuma was a toxic little slimeball :slimevulgar: :slimevulgar: :slimevulgar: He went to great lengths to defy the court and basically act like the RSA equivalent of the GROUNS guy :marseygrouns: :marseygrouns: :marseygrouns: I'm not joking at all.

Here is some examples of his arrogance and misbehaviors:

https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/zondo-commission-to-lay-criminal-charges-against-jacob-zuma-for-walking-out-of-inquiry-01296852-383c-4a71-8f3d-c43c4fb50569

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17021215009751785.webp

Zuma literally just walked out of the building after lunch, because the judge refused to recuse him! :marseyemojirofl:

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-01-28-final-order-concourt-rules-jacob-zuma-must-appear-and-answer-questions-at-zondo-commission

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17021215411991963.webp

THEN, after staying away for like a month, the court ruled: no actually you can't just hide away you little shit.

https://allafrica.com/stories/202102010791.html

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1702121541087188.webp

Zuma then tried stalling for as long as possible, so that he did not have to testify in front of Zondo and the other 6 commisioners.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-56073199

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17021215409185457.webp

By late February 2021, the Comission started calling Zuma's behaviour as contempt of court.


ZUMA IMPRISSONED FOR CONTEMPT OF COURT:

On 29 June 2021, Zuma was sentenced to 15 months in prison for contempt of court, after his refusal to appear before the commission, and using everything in his legal team's power to prevent him from going to the principle's office.

After it became clear at the end of March that Zuma would physically refuse to present himself in front of the commission's court, he was given an ultimatum: he had until 4 July to get his butt in court or the SAPS would arrest him. :marseycop: And he of course refused :acab:

When police arrived at Zuma's house to arrest him, there were fricking armed Zuma supporters barring his way! :marseykyle: :ancap:

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/south-africas-zuma-hand-himself-over-police-foundation-2021-07-07

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1702121573787614.webp

Luckily a bloodbath was avoided when Zuma finally decided to go quietly. Zuma challenged his detention on 8 July in the Pietermaritzburg High Court on the grounds of health but this was rejected.


UNREST BEGINS: 9 July 2021

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2021-07-09-millions-of-rand-of-kzn-infrastructure-damaged-in-violent-free-jacob-zuma-protests

The very next day, when Zuma was taken to prison, civil unrest began sweeping the nation, as hardcore Zuma supporters, especially Zulus, began to take to the streets. And the province hardest and most immediately hit with unrest was KwaZulu-Natal, the homeland of Zulus.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17021215733454218.webp

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The KwaZulu-Natal government pleaded for calm on Friday amid protests believed to be part of a violent β€œFree Jacob Zuma and shut down KZN” campaign in which millions of rand worth of infrastructure have been damaged.

The police were under pressure when responding to several fiery protests, disruptions to traffic and truck blockades since the early hours of Friday morning from Empangeni on the north coast to the province's south coast.

β€œSeveral vehicles were reportedly stoned and millions worth of public infrastructure damaged, resulting in many commuters not being able to reach their places of work.

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In the 1st day the entire nation and including the KwaZulu-Natal admin was completely caught off guard, and didn't understand where these protests were coming from, as violence broke out over dozens of cities and towns. :leafpunch: :windowpunch: :marseyjacksparrow: :coppunch: :squareup: :marseybardfinn: :marseydomesticabuse: :marseypunched:

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/south-african-police-arrest-27-over-protests-linked-zuma-jailing-2021-07-10

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Roads were blocked with trucks and burning tires, vehicles were attacked with stones and debris, and 28 rioters arrested on the 1st day.


RIOTS CONTINUE AND ESCALATE:

The riots continued till 11 July. Rioting was not unusual in SA, and happened a great deal where poverty and corruption rubbed off of one another, people displayed their pleasure at gov officials not paying their salaries by burning tires and blocking roads, and protested their municipalities not giving the locals their water and electricity by upending trash into offices. These protests/riots would peter out after a day or two however. :marseyfine: :marseyfine: :marseyfine: :marseynecklace: :marseynecklace: :marseynecklace:

But it quickly became apparent that the 2021 Riots was much more violent and intense in nature. For 5 days straight the violence, road-blocking and random assaults didn't only not end, but intensified. Police, ambulances and firefighting services quickly became overwhelmed.


Finally by 12 July 2021, a frenzy was reached in Kwazulu-Natal, when rioting turned quickly large scale province-wide looting, as people realized the provincial and local police forces had been completely overwhelmed by the scale of the unrest, and their incapacity to arrest more than a dozen people per city per day. Looting of course took place since 9 July, but after 12 July, it was like somebody ripped of the watertap and let the stream funnel.

Hundreds of people would descent upon their local CCD district and local supermarkets and just fricking pilfer everything in sight. Before 12 July, shopping attendants would fend off robbers :marseyrobber: :marseyrobber: :marseyrobber: but after 12 July, all cashiers, attendants and customer service people basically bolted in the face of zombie hordes :marseymancer: :marseydecayed: :marseyzombiewink: :marseyheadcrab: :marseyzombie: :parrotzombie:

https://mg.co.za/news/2021-07-12-businesses-reel-as-zumaunrest-rages

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====(article)

A number of businesses and services have closed their doors as violent unrest spread across KwaZulu-Natal and Gauteng, leaving a number of dead and wounded civilians and looted and burned shops in their wake. Initially constrained to townships and the eThekwini central business district, the violence in KwaZulu-Natal has spread across Pietermaritzburg and Durban's suburban areas.

In response, pharmaceutical chains Dis-Chem and Clicks temporarily shut down all branches across the province on Monday. Banks, too, have likewise been disrupted. Absa shut down all branches in the province while Standard Bank urged customers to utilise online banking, reporting that the unrest had prevented employees from coming into work.

All public transport services in the region were also halted. In Gauteng, the escalating situation in Alexandra and Jeppestown over the weekend forced a number of local shop owners to stop trading for fear of coming under attack. As tensions grew on Monday morning, a number of shopping malls and businesses across the province were forced into similar action.

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Soon the looting began to spread beyond the borders of KwaZulu-Natal into its neighbouring provinces, especially Gauteng, the most populated province.

https://mg.co.za/news/2021-07-12-all-public-transport-in-kzn-stops-as-looting-spreads

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17021216052287488.webp

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Widespread looting of shops and attacks on shopping malls continued in various parts of KwaZulu-Natal on Monday as the province continued to bear the brunt of the wave of violence that has broken out since the imprisonment of former president Jacob Zuma last week.

All public transport in the province β€” buses, taxis and trains β€” stopped operating on Sunday in anticipation of the spread of violent looting on Monday. The N3 has been closed to traffic to and from Johannesburg. A number of blockades on the N2 between Durban and Richards Bay have been reported, along with attacks on vehicles and shopping malls to the south of Durban.

While the initial outbreak of violence and looting took place in the CBD and townships around the city, by Monday it had spread to suburbia, with shopping malls being looted in Glenwood, Sydenham and Chatsworth.

A long trail consisting of people carrying goods looted in Glenwood were busy making their way towards the Ridge during the morning, with no police visible while they did so.

According to South African Police Service officials, 219 people have been arrested since the attacks started, 96 of them in Gauteng and 123 in KwaZulu-Natal.

Late on Monday morning, the South African National Defence Force announced that troops were being deployed in KwaZulu-Natal and Gauteng.

Soldiers were immediately deployed to hotspots around the province, guarding a number of key points believed to be under threat from rioters. The KwaZulu-Natal provincial legislature and the high court were among the first buildings to receive army guards.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-57803513

By 12 July the escalation of violence, and consequent provincewide looting had become to intense that the RSA military was being deployed to aid the failing provincial police in Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17021216408429124.webp

By 12 July at least six people have been killed and nearly 500 arrested.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17021216405977466.webp


https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-07-12-business-in-crisis-mode-as-violence-escalates

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On Monday morning, the fourth day of violence following the arrest of former president Jacob Zuma, private security firms were encouraging owners of businesses on the R103 from Heidelberg to Johannesburg to close their gates, lock their businesses, and evacuate as looters and others intent on damaging properties and businesses made their way up the road.

Elsewhere in KZN retailers including, Massmart, Dis-Chem, Mr Price, Shoprite and Pick n Pay reported extensive damage to property.

Massmart reported that looters had gained access to, and made off with merchandise from seven Massmart-owned stores including Game, Makro, Cash & Carry, and Cambridge Foods. Dis-Chem announced that it was closing its pharmacies, vaccination sites, and drive-through testing stations in the KZN area. This was due to the unrest, the company said.

β€œWe are not being targeted specifically. I believe that it is general lawlessness and criminality taking hold of the country. We do not want to put our staff and our customers at risk. So, as a precaution we have closed our KZN stores and will do so in other regions if we feel that there is a risk,” Brian Epstein, the operations director at Dis-Chem, told Business Maverick.

The economy will not escape unscathed either.

β€œThe economy is already struggling with the negative impact of tightening lockdown restrictions at the turn of Q2.21 into Q3.21, but the sharp political unrest SA is now experiencing could have an even more severe impact, and cause GDP growth forecasts to be downgraded,” says Investec chief economist, Annabel Bishop.

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Some good 2 minute summary Youtube:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mrw-CbjpGfQ2


WEEKS OF VIOLENCE: 12 July - 12 August 2021

https://www.citizen.co.za/witness/news/pietermaritzburg/boy-11-shot-dead-during-unrest-in-pietermaritzburg-kzn-20210712

Another noteworthy thing that happened on 12 July was that near a township in Pietermaritzburg, a young 15-year old boy was accidentally caught in the chaos, and hit with a rubber bullet fired from a riot-gun, which mortally wounded him. This incident was the 1st person killed during the 2021 SA riots by police, and sparked a reactionary frenzy amidst the local rioters, and later amongst other nationwide rioters as news spread.

For the next 4 weeks there would be unrest, but the most had died down by the 1st week, after 12 July, as the RSA military began to hem in rioters, and catching looters.

What was astonishing about the 2021 Riots was that basically nearly everyone was guilty of stealing something, entire township communities would descent upon supermarkets, destroy and loot and burn them.


RACIAL TENSIONS BETWEEN SOUTH AFRICAN BLACKS AND INDIANS:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_(province)

Kwazulu-Natal is not only the homeland of the Zulus, but also the place of residence of South Africa's largest Indian community. For some context Natal was what the Bonglish state was called in the early 19th century when Cape Town changed hands between England and the Dutch. As the proto-Boers fricked off North, the English settlers expanded alongside the coast mostly, or stayed back next to Cape Town.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17021216403599305.webp

It was in Natal where the events took place in the famous Zulu (1964) :marseyprojection: movie, where the British overcame the might of Shaka's descendants, and won over control of the region, which they called Natal. It went from being part of the Cape colony, to being it's own province in 1910, when the Union of South Africa formed, up until 1994 when RSA became democratic. As seen in the above map, Natal was seperated by the white regions, from the ancestral Zulu-portions. Which is why in 1994, it was renamed to KwaZulu-Natal, as one unified region.

Anyways, important that when the British :marseybowler: got ownership from the :marseycheemsdog: dutch, they would import heaploads of Indian slaves and indentured servants to farm both Cape Town and Durban which were their most important refreshment ports for their wooden sailing ships, traversing along the Cape Point between India and Bongland. The descendants of these Indian slaves (1.3 million of them) :marseytunaktunak: :marseytunaktunak: :marseytunaktunak: would house themselves majority in the Eastern Cape and modern Natal, similar in comparison as most coloureds are concentrated along Cape Town itself.

This is important to understand because the people closest to the epicenter of the violent outbreak of looting in July 2021 in Natal, was the largest indian communities of South AFrica.

Indians in South Africa have always been apart from the local blacks, in culture and religion, even compared to coloureds who get along more or less. Indians are also famously ESPECIALLY racist towards blacks, as the two group have always mistreated one another in the street level, and kept apart due to language and cultural barriers. In the past, under Apartheid, the NP regime kept a lid over animosity between Indians and Black peeps, but in the absence of a white dominating group to hate in concert, the bitterness between the two groups would fester in the new Republic of South Africa. :slapfight: :slapfight: :slapfight:

Black people would practice extreme nepotism against Indians, especially when government work was at stake which further bred animosity. Indians are also very entrepreneurial, and many Indian families have shops, of fabrics and imports straight from the homeland of mother India, where they sometimes literally have familial contacts for cheap goods. And unlike chinese shit, imported Indian products like spice, fabrics and factory shops, were not garbage when they were cheaper than local markets :marseystocksup: :marseystocksup: :marseystocksup:

Thus indians found nationwide success (as well as steriotypes) as small shop owners with usually their whole family and 2nd 2nd cousin governing the business. But this also meant that indians had to deal with the poorest, which further worsened their relationship with SA blacks who tended to be the majority thieves. :marseyrobber: :platypiratecaptain: :platypirate:

The hilarious part about Indians is that they are not even quiet about their dislike and racism :marseyracist: :marseyracist: :marseykkkevil: :marseykkkevil: :marseykkkevil: :marseyswastika: :marseyswastika: :marseyswastika: :marseykkkblm: :marseykkkblm: :marseykkkblm: towards SA blacks, they will straight up say k-ffir when whites shy away from the word. They will follow black customers like a shadow in their shops, while giving whites overwhelming preferential treatment. Indians refuse to like in mixed-raced communities, and go to vast lengths to cordon themselves off from black people in terms of housing; only whites are ever allowed in their suburbs or apartment-complexes when possible. And they can because the majority of social powers spent in South Africa is aimed at the past wrongdoings of whites, thus it is almost like the racism of Indians have this invisible blindspot/sweetspot. Well Almost.

It's not like blacks are oblivious towards Indian racism, famously the Guptas refused to have black servants cater to them, when they went to their infamous marriage in Sun City, only white servants were allowed :marseycatgirl3: :daddysgirl:

The situation between Indians and Blacks in Kwazulu-Natal 2021 July, was very very similar to that of the relationship between Koreans and African-Americans in Burgerland Los Angeles in 1992, when the demographic worst hit by the King riots were Korean businesses adjacent to the African-American communities, because the police were either overwhelmed or stayed out of the zombie warzones. :marseylibleft: :marseylibleft: :marseylibleft: :marseyshooting: :marseyshooting: :marseyshooting:


ROOF KOREANS vs INDIAN ROADBLOCKS:

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/-we-are-outnumbered-govt-raises-concerns-attacks-indians-south-africa-1828312-2021-07-15

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17021216985266848.webp

In the Indian-majority township of Phoenix, KwaZulu-Natal, some of the residents had armed themselves to fight off looters, due to the complete absence of police forces. Like Boers, a lot of the Indians are very somewhat pro firearm, and a lot of Indians had firearms available.

https://www.opindia.com/2021/07/south-africa-zuma-prison-riots-loot-arson-unrest-ramaphosa-civilian-indian-community-arms-self-defence

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========(from opindia article)

As per reports, in several places of the country, residential communities have formed armed groups to defend their homes and businesses from the rioters. Armed groups of civilians have reportedly been formed in several parts of Durban city as community members try to defend themselves. As police forces and private security provisions are stretched beyond their capacity, residents and business owners seem to be taking the law into their own hands to save lives and property.

The Indian community arms itself to protect homes and businesses

Ex-President Jacob Zuma's association with the Gupta brothers and their role in the corruption cases is being used as an excuse to target many Indian businesses and Indian communities living in Durban and Johannesburg, as per some reports. One such Twitter handle, instigating riots against Indians, wrote, β€œLet us not forget that Jacob Zuma sold our country to Indian monopoly capital (IMC).” The Twitter handle had shared an image of the tainted Gupta brothers.

https://x.com/EnemySlayer24_7/status/1414570274297507841

Members of the Indian community were seen armed with guns and artillery to ward off rioters, looters, and arsonists. Willem Petzer, the Chairman of Taxpayers Union of South Africa, tweeted, β€œI have to say, after watching everything that happened today, I am looking at the Durban Indian community in a whole different light. These guys showed us they are willing to go all the way to defend their communities when they are threatened, whatever it takes.”

https://x.com/willempet/status/1414649243931975680

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https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/breaking-what-happened-in-phoenix-were-criminal-acts-of-the-worst-kind-cele

The KwaZulu-Natal Premier Sihle Zikalala stated that 38 people had been killed by vigilantes in Phoenix, Inanda and Verulam. Racial tensions in the area, it was discovered, were stoked by false :marseymeangirls: :marseygossipsmug: :marseygossipsmug: :marseygossipsmug: rumours of a massacre of between 350 and 500 black people, allegedly by Indians in Phoenix.

Some residents had set up roadblocks and started patrolling the streets after rioting in Durban. Some of the vigilantes had started racially profiling people, mainly black people, and restricting their entry. When one truck containing looted items was stopped, the four occupants, who were black citizens, fired at the vigilantes, who shot back and killed one of them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/04/world/africa/South-Africa-Phoenix-riots-deaths.html

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Now during the rioting as Indians kept setting up roadblocks, armed to the teeth with with firearms, black peeps on social media started complaining that the Indian communities, especially of Phoenix were racially profiling black people when determining who would come through :marseynoooticer: :marseywrongthonk: :carphmm: :marseynoooticer: :marseynotes: :marseywrongthonk: :marseyattentionseeker: This further inflamed tensions between the two communities.


https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/7/15/south-africans-organise-to-confront-looters-defend-property

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17021208952373345.webp


AFTERMATH:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-14/food-shortages-set-to-grip-south-africa-after-rioters-rampage

On 12 July 2021, the Consumer Goods Council of South Africa warned that widespread looting, destruction and closures would lead to food shortages across the country. Damage :marseyakbar: :marseyakbar: :marseyakbar: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseymissile: to transport infrastructure had caused food shortages, leading to queues outside grocery stores, and prevented harvesting and distribution of fresh produce.

The largest food manufacturer in South Africa, Tiger Brands, suspended bakery operations in affected areas due to damaged infrastructure and facilities while also noting that it had suffered a loss of stock in excess of R150 million :marseychartdowntrend2: :marseychartdowntrend2: :marseychartdowntrend2:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1702122210453326.webp

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/kwazulu-natal/kzn-unrest-bread-has-returned-but-we-are-now-paying-r40-for-a-loaf-b8cbdbce-8953-404e-8686-db205a2354ee


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Hey OP, what's the coolest thing you looted during the riots?

Seriously tho, since when was indentured servitude the same thing as slavery? I've never heard of Indians being brought to South Africa against their will.

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Oh good grief. First of all, Global is not even a good news source, let alone a historical one. Secondly, indentured servitude is not the same as slavery, and you cheapen the word by equating them.

Great post, otherwise!

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I dont know anything about the channel/source, but i looked at the video twice now, and i cant find any fault with a long subjectmatter that's untrue

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indentured servitude /= slavery

They simply ain't the same thing.

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indentured servitude /= slavery

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They aren't though

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Then mayoids were slaves to Bongs then :marseyshapiro:

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You've been hanging out in /r/antiwork too much if you think they're the same.

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Okay, fine. You're right.

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https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/indian-south-africans

ok but there were both in SA, 1st group came as slaves, and many many servants came after britain controlled Cape

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Yeah, but as that link claims, it was the Dutch who initially brought slaves from India, not the Bongs.

In any case, every reliable historical source agrees that the vast majority of Indian migration to South Africa was voluntary, and came during the latter part of the 1800s, decades after slavery had been outlawed in the British Empire.

There are plenty of valid reasons to hate the Bongs (especially historically), but enslaving Indians and taking them to Africa isn't really one of them.

I wouldn't have said anything, but I otherwise respect you so much as a historian.

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Ok

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Isn't that website kinda pozzed?

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Yeah but that was only by the Dutch and the majority of Indians arrived with the Bongs

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Taxi Unions of Limpopo province prevented rioters from entering the province as they wanted the carnage away from their markets

I was working in Limpopo in 2021 so i was shielded from the entire rioting

https://find-it.co.za/2021/07/14/limpopo-taxi-organizations-bury-the-hatchet-declare-war-on-looting-instead

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